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Old October 16th 06, 04:21 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
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Default How detect if MP3 player is recording in your room? [OT]


"kony" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 09:32:39 -0500, "Ken Maltby"
wrote:


You made a suggestion that was not resolvable to a
difference in operation of an MP3 player. With a constant
current and constant bitrate output, you'd essentially be
suggesting that from a distance you can discriminate which
bits are flowing on the bus to the memory, in what is likely
a shielded case. I find this highly unlikely.


I was suggesting no such thing. I find your idea that an
ungrounded MP3 recorder has any significant shielding,
very unlikely.


Define significant. Many have grounded copper foil in them.
It's not as though this is a high powered device to begin
with, though, and would commonly have to be detected at a
distance.


Still consumer electronics do not have very good shielding.
Hence it would be a very minor task to detect the sampling clock of the
recorder in question. And most of the times the sampling rate is specified
by the MFG.


The recorder to be a threat and to respond
to sound must let sound waves through, even if it is a
contact microphone/sensor/transducer, and they require
significant amplification in their operation.


No, you are thinking of older devices. There needs be no
amplification prior to the digitization chip which can run
at constant current, very low voltage and no easily
detectable response to room noise from a distance.


You still have the sampling rate, which requires a clock at that rate, so at
a minimum that clock can be detected.
And most designs would include an amplification stage prior to digitization,
as the levels from most mics will not be sufficient, and also to add
isolation between the input stages.