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Old October 18th 06, 05:33 PM posted to alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.scanner
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Default CW-forever Guys are gonna go balistic!


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Sure - but the results may be very different. I doubt FCC is too
worried about the amateur community as "the public". They're too busy
dealing with wardrobe malfunctions and Howard Stern wannabes.


That sort of stuff is handled by the upper-level politically sensitive
types at the FCC, our fates are crafted by the OET jorneymen. The BPL
flap excepted.


Maybe. If ya think BPL isn't political, ya haven't been paying
attention.


?? . . that's why I stated "the BPL flap excepted".

By now they've long since
gotten wise to Anderson's childish antics and his "comments" just get
rubber-stamped "READ" and tossed into the outbox without further ado.

They gotta accept 'em and read 'em. They don't have to act on them.


Who audits this process to make sure they all get "equal reads" and
consideration? Where's the published policies on the topic? Answer:
There ain't neither. You can fill in the rest.


They do read all of the comments.


Highly unlikely particulary in cases like Anderson's nonsense *and*
I'll only believe it when I see it. Unless you gots documentation to
the contrary or you've been there yourself.

What they conclude is another matter.


Yeah, they conclude on sight that they're not gonna actually read his
crap . .

Then he's even more off the wall than I've given him credit for.


Not my problem. Not yours, either.


That I agree with.

FCC could have just dropped Element 1 in August 2003. Memorandum Report
and Order, coupla paragraphs and done. All they'd have to do is say
that the issue was thoroughly discussed before the 2000 restructuring,
and the treaty was the only reason they kept Element 1.

But they didn't, and now it's almost 3-1/2 years later.


(a) They're toying with us for jollies.
(b) They know it doesn't matter one way or another.
(c) They're internally deadlocked on the subject just like we are.
(d) It'll show up in Omnibus II.


I'd say (a) and (b), plus a bit of

(e) They are ticked off at the 18 petitions, lack of consensus and
mountains of commentary.


I doubt that there's much (e) involved, they've been patrolling up and
down our back road in the RF wilderness for decades and they're quite
used to it. Used to us and our level of noisy BS. In any event thee and
me are bulletproof, we're 20WPM Extras so I could care less when they
bite the bullet and do whatever they're gonna do about the code test.

'Course I thought I was bulletproof in 1967 too when I had a General .
.. .

But that makes no difference when it comes to getting what we want out
of FCC. I think we'd do a lot better to get a consensus *before*
deluging them with proposals and comments, that's all.


Idealism and standard motherhood get you nowhere.


I'm not saying it'll ever happen, just that it explains why it takes so
long to get anything from FCC.


Eternity is not a particulary long time in gummint buracracies like the
FCC. Been there, been part of it.

and why the result is so unlike what is
proposed.


.. . . "Mother knows best" . . .

Somebody wrote in a post in QRZ.com that they'd been in direct e-mail
contact with the FCC about the anomalies and confusion in the R&O and
the FCC agreed that the R&O needs more work before it goes to the
Register. That'll push implemetation of a cleaned-up version out until
God knows when. Reset: Game started over.

I noticed in another of your posts that you didn't understand why the
80M CW band and 75M phone band are called what they are. Or something
akin to that. It's an ancient convention which is conceptually useful
in a number of ways and is not even close to "numerically rigorous".
It's a simplistic way of identifying the ham bands and nothing more.

The real numbers go like this:

3.5 Mhz = 86M
3.75 Mhz = 80M
3.8M hz = 79M
4.0 Mhz = 75M
7.0 Mhz = 42.8M
7.5 Mhz = 40M
14 Mhz = 21.4M
15 Mhz = 20M

.. . all I care about is that when I punch the button which sez "80" I
hear a lotta beeping going on and when I hit the button marked "75"
it's the motormouths at play . .

73 de Jim, N2EY


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