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Old October 19th 06, 01:10 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.scanner
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Default Is the code requirement really keeping good people out of ham radio?

"Jimmie D" wrote in
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:27:33 -0500, Nada Tapu
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:39:47 -0400, wrote:

And you probably answered some theory questions about modes you'll
never use and formulas you'll never see again. Maybe we should just
eliminate the theory exam, too.

and what do we gain by doing that it is certainly an option when
eleimate code testing we eleimate something that makes the ARS look
stpuid obviously we gain by that

Look stupid? Oh, excuse me!

yes you are stupid and anothe rof the usenet cowards


There are a lot of people who don't want to be bothered with the
theory exam, either. And when it comes right down to it, what do we
really need a theory exam for?

you tell me

I think it benifits the ARS by insuring that new hams reconize the
term and the rules involved in the ARS

don't you think it does that?

Most CB'ers and electronic hobbyists
have the technical expertise to put a multi-band rig and antenna on
the air and start operating without any trouble at all.


and many so Indeed we could despense with the technical question sif
it was found to be to our benifit

They feel they
shouldn't need to take a test in order to do that, and a good case may
be made in favor of that approach. Homebrew and experiment? Sure, why
not? They can do that too. I did when I was on CB, so why can't
others? Why should I take a test that includes superflous questions
about operating modes and aspects of electronics and computers that I
have absolutely no intention of employing in my day to day station
operation?

Now allow me to put on the "other hat".


pput on such hats as you please

CW is a part of amateur radio's heritage and history.


agreed
One has to
embrace the past to realize where one is today.

that is merely one method but one is not required to emabrace the past
or to real;ize where we are today
Having said that, CW
is not an obsolete mode by any means;


it is obslete
it is timeless. It was a viable
communications mode 50 years ago, it still is today, and it will still
be perfectly viable 10,000 years from now.


which does not prevent it from being oselte

the Longbow it is still a vaible weapon today will be for some time to
come

it is none the less obeslete
It's spectrum efficient
and highly effective under adverse conditions. So what if it happens
to be dated? There is absolutlely nothing wrong with the preservation
and continued use of old but perfectly good technologies.


and I don't object to YOU doing so but I do object to your insistance
on public specturm being used to do as a complution on all those that
wish to use it
It's just
too bad if some operators feel that a certain operating mode reflects
badly on the amateur community solely because it's been around for a
long time. There is nothing "stupid" about this issue.


what is stupid is this insistance that I must help to preserve some
thing that YOU value and wish preserved and that I think we would be
better off leting it go the way of Spark

Am I supporting the elimination of the theory exam and promoting the
testing of morse skills? Of course not, although I can see how one
would reach that conclusion from my statements. I'm being purposely
obtuse.

and insulting
What amateur radio needs is BALANCE.


which it will lack as long as the ARS insist on worshiping the ONE
mode CW above the rest of the ARS combined as the leicense system does
today
It needs operators with
a rich set of skills and traits that will set it apart from the other
radio services. When those skills and traits cease to exist, the
service will perish, and eventually the spectrum will be sold to the
highest bidder.

My $.02 Draw your own conclusions.

my conclusion is that you will twist truth and logic anyway you like
to achive your end

for that matter so will I

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Indeed we could dispense with much of the technical qualifications some
day. The technical part is basically an attempt to make sure the amatuer
is competent enough to operate their equipment in a maner that does not
interfere with other services outside of his designated allocation of
spectrum, in other words, within FCC regulations. At such a time when
all equipment is made idiot proof and all hams use store bought idiot
proofed gear we may see this.So far the one experiment at this has
failed. You think you have something idiot proof and then guess what,
someone makes a better idiot. So I am not worried about requirement of
theory going away. As far a CW is concerned to gain the privledges hams
have today they had to show they were a national asset. Part of being
that asset was our ability to process emergency traffic should the need
arrive. At the time CW was needed to accomplish this. It is no longer
needed to meet our obligation of service. OF course this begs the
question, can we fullfil our obligation. To this I believe we can, but
are we really needed. CW has been replaced by other technologies, it
would make more sense to require typing skills than CW, an idea I dont
think is so bad even though I may have trouble with twenty wpm on a
keyboard.



If CW has been replaced by other technologies, why aren't more amateurs
doing the modernized modes? It's because they don't want too. Ham radio
has been dumbed down and we can't even force hams to use them to be
proficient communicators.

CW isn't preventing the modernization of ham radio, Laziness is.

SC