RadioBanter - View Single Post - What is the ARRL's thought on having good amateurs?

[email protected] · October 29th 06, 01:14 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

From: on Sat, Oct 28 2006 2:56pm

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From: "Dee Flint" on Fri, Oct 27 2006 8:16pm
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Dee Flint wrote:
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Dee Flint wrote:
"Chris" wrote in message

How refreshing to find that not one attribute has been forged.

Wonders never cease! :-)

In addition, I have repeatedly stated that each and every mode has its
advantages and disadvantages.

If you were to compare and contrast all existing modes, it think it is
likely that you would claim that CW is the best mode.

Depends on the conditions. One can construct scenarios where whatever mode
they favor is the "best".

"CW always gets through..." :-)

"CW always gets through" in only one scenario, and that is a fictitious
K3LT scenario.

Tsk, Larry Troll BORROWED an old, old saying in ["CW"]
ham radio. It was around in the 1930s. Troll tried to
make a scenario of a desert island where a "floating"
Ten-Tec washed ashore to use for 'rescue.' :-)

Any one striving to be a knowledgeable ham should
be converstant with those scenarios.

...especially in the Newington, CT, area. :-)

Is somebody running for an ARRL office?

Who knows? :-)

If you need an image, SST or fax are
far better modes than CW. The "best" mode depends on the purpose of the
communication and the conditions under which that communication must be
sent.

There is NO separate pass-fail TEST for "image, SST [sic]
or fax" nor for data or voice required by the FCC for an
amateur license. ["SSTV"]

The ONLY separate pass-fail TEST is for manual telegraphy.

Wow! I guess CW is more valued than ALL OF THE OTHER MODES COMBINED!

Absolutely! Gots to get Morris Goad 'technology!'

Because of the efforts made to dismiss countless Morse Myths over the
years, you were just now able to state that not all CW signals are good
without 1x2 PCTAs pooh poohing such talk.

You are exaggerating.

Hardly. ALL of the pro-code 1x2s in here, plus some 1x3s,
have stated the hoary old Maxim "CW always gets through."

Except N2EY who never admits to doing anything wrong...:-)

Yet he avoids my question about the aliases he's posted under on RRAP.

Jimmie never did anything wrong! :-)

None have stated all CW signals are good. What they
have contended is that it is possible to copy a poor CW signal under
conditions where you could not copy other types of signals.

"CW always gets through..." :-)

Nope.

Well, that's what I've been told...by pro-coders... :-)

If morse code radiotelegraphy were so "good," why hasn't
NASA picked up on it for the Deep Space Net? For the
quarter-million-mile 'DX' path to our moon? Why have
the maritime folks GIVEN UP on morse code for Safety Of
Life At Sea? [GMDSS uses a form of data, automated]

500KHz.

Not to worry. Some hams are 'experimenting' with a small
slice right next to 500 KHz, using it for 'radio research'
or something. Like that region of the EM spectrum has
"never been examined" before. :-)

PSK will allow 100 WPM data to get through when all the
morsepersons have to use their imaginations to fill in
the garbled morse characters.

Oh SHUT UP! That doesn't help the Morse argument one little bit!

Oh, dear, now Jimmie will get on MY case because YOU
told me to "shut up!" :-)

Ackshully, that's 'okay' since an NCTA said that to
another NCTA. We can't EVER tell a PCTA to shut up!

Still, the argument over the separate pass-fail "CW"
TEST is there with all the morsepersons wanting it be
kept forever and ever in FCC regulations...WHY?

Because Morse is used in ham radio contests.

Rhetorical question.

Darnit! I should have read ahead!!!

The separate pass-fail "CW" TEST
is there because: (1) The ARRL wants it (they "know
what is best for ham radio"); (2) The already-licensed
had to take a morse test and everyone else had better
take one, too!

EXactly.

I could have added "tradition" as a third 'reason' but hams
can't use Spark, the very first way hams used radio. That's
been outlawed. So much for "tradition."