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[email protected] · November 3rd 06, 02:26 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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Dee Flint wrote:

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Half of all USA licensed amateurs are licensed under a Code-Free
license.

That's not true.

You mean the Technician? If so, they are a considerable amount less
than half.

40% is more like it.

49.5% according to your very own postings.

That's not true.

Technicians currently make up 43.7% of US amateurs (individuals who are
currently licensed). 43.7% isn't "half".

Not all of them are "code free" either. A considerable number are
Technician Pluses who renewed as Technicians, upgraded Novices, and
Technicians who passed Element 1.

You are mistaken, Brian.
No, I'm not.

You either do not realize or refuse to admit your mistake. But you are
still mistaken.

The Technician license does not make up 49.5% of US hams. The total of
Technicians and Technician Pluses reaches about that level. (All
Technician Pluses are Morse Code tested).

The FCC did away with the Technician Plus class of license.
. They are
all Technicians now.

That's not true.

There are still over 34,000 Technican Pluses in the FCC database.

The Technician Plus license is being phased out. That's not the same
thing as doing away with the license class. And with over 34,000
current Technician Pluses in the FCC database, it is simply not true
to say "They are all Technicians now".

The Technician license has no requirement for a
code exam.

Now *that* is true - for the basic Technician license. A Technician who
passes Element 1 gets some HF privileges. A Technician who was once a
Novice or Tech Plus, or whose CSCE for Element 1 is new enough, can
upgrade to General without additional Morse Code testing.

Should a Technician wish to use what were once Technician
Plus priveleges, they're on their own to show eligibility.

That's true.

can't seem to understand the LAW.

That's not true.

No matter how
often it is explained to him, he falls back on the Speroni
'definition' of 'What Technicians Are.'

That's not true.

The LAW? There is more than one variety of "Technician". Jim provided
you fact. You've set out to distort it. You are a non-radio amateur
with unchangeable ideas.

I am an amateur radio operator

That's true.

and I know what I'm talking about.

In this case, that's not true. At least, not completely.

I'm an amateur radio operator, and I say you and Len are mistaken.

All
former varieties of Technicians will be renewed as "Technician."
Period.

That's true. However, they are not all the same.

If the former varieties with HF privs wish to exercise those
privs, THEY MUST PRODUCE DOCUMENTATION THAT IS NOT ON THEIR LICENSE AS
RECEIVED FROM THE FCC.

There's no reason to shout.

All Novices renew as Novices, All Advanced renew as Advanced, and all
Tech Plusses renew as TECHNICIANS.

That's true.

However, all Technicians are not "code free".

Thems the facts.

Not all of them.

If you don't like it, complain to the FCC, not me.

It's not about liking it. It's about the fact that the statement

"Half of all USA licensed amateurs are licensed under a Code-Free
license."

is simply not accurate.

You can shout and carry on, call names and get your buddy Len to do his
thing, but the error of your statement will still exist, Brian.