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Old November 5th 06, 11:49 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
AndyS AndyS is offline
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Default CW to FM Remodulator?


William E. Sabin wrote:
There are so many variables and approximations involved that it would seem
difficult to be very precise about 8.0 or 8.5 dB S/N ratio or some other
number. The decision probably involves the type of signal involved. 8.0 dB
in one application gives the minimum acceptible performance for one kind of
signal. A more critical system might want more than 8.0 dB to achieve a
better bit error rate, for example.

Bill W0IYH


Andy comments:

Yeah, .... the way I used it was to adjust the level to tangential,
then increase
the signal level with an attenuator to get the S/n I wanted,,,,,

You know how hard it is to put together the stuff to measure the
S/N of a pulsed signal ? Well, by setting it up to get 'tangential"
then
messing with the attenuators to get what I wanted, I could, with
reasonable
accuracy, set up a measurement for 13 o 14 db S/n , or whatever, to
take
the Pfa measurement....

( Those are the S/N levels that reasonable Pfa and Pd numbers occur )


Remember, Tangential Sensitivity was defined 50 years before
Agilent
was in existence... Maybe more....... It allowed a person with a scope
to
make reasonably accurate measurements, and refine their systems to take
advantage of it, 50 years before the simulators, and math, dealt
conclusively
with the issue. Hewlitt was using light bulbs to make audio
oscillators when
RADAR engineers were finding German airplanes....

If my use of the HISTORICAL term has confused these kids that just
got
their BSEE,...... I don't really care....

Why do we respond to these kids ? Probably because we both are
retired and bored.....If they want to prove we are stupid, ...
hell,.... it's
OK with me..... I admit readily to having only a fraction of the math
ability
that I would need to understand all of the things I know to be true...
..... Including Pi.............

Andy in Eureka, W4OAH, over-the-hill on Lake Richland-Chambers