wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
What would you see as the affect causing the red shift effect?
We are immersed in relativistic effects and cannot
measure or see the forest for the trees. If our
velocity is less today than it was in the past, then
seconds are shorter today than in the past. If we
measure a frequency with a second that is shorter
than seconds were when the frequency was generated,
the frequency measurement is red-shifted. If we
measure the age of the universe with shortened
seconds, we come up with a value that is too large.

What if the very first second after the Big Bang was
one billion years long measured in present day seconds?
Hyperinflation would not be needed. And there would
be a drift between carbon-14 years and Bristle Cone
pine rings.

This thought occurred to me some 40+ years ago when
I made a frequency measurement and the time base
selection knob on my o'scope was loose and pointing
to the wrong time scale. I measured 30 Hz for the
power line frequency.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Dunno. I still think time is a man made confarction.
After all, who was the one that determined just how
long a second lasted in the first place. Probably a
hairy man. Who would be the one to decide that the
length of a second has changed value? Again, probably
some hairly legged dude sitting at a desk.
Me? I don't think time exists as we know it. Time as
we know it was conceived by men, for men.
A second can be any length we choose.
Of course, through time as we know it, we have developed
tighter standards of tracking this unit of measure, which
was conceived by man for man. Of course, I imagine the
beginnings of keeping track of time were all solar related.
IE: sunrise, sunset, etc..
Time is infinite the way I see it.
In it's true state, it has no bounderies. In a way, it doesn't
even exist.
My name is not Einstein, but I approved this message anyway.
MK


MK:

Indeed:

.... But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality
characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be
tracked through time. -- Einstein

You just sounded a LOT like him...

JS