art wrote:
Tom it is no good plonking me for what david is saying because he is
not quoting me, in fact some of it is a requote of what he said not me.
I think he is creating a straw man that he can argue with, is that what
you call reality? He has spent most of his time in space and I believe
him

Tom Ring wrote:
Dave wrote:

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Art:

First, you must learn "theory" (and there IS a reason they term that
THEORY! it is JUST THAT!) the way they learned it, so you can quote it
to them verbatim, else they can't relate, else they are quick to
dismiss. It helps if every once in awhile you say, "I know the accepted
way of thinking says this, or that... but what about this other, or that
other?" (yanno what I mean?)

Then you can really begin "thinking."

However, that is not all bad, it gives common ground so we ALL can
communicate on a level which gives some understanding and purpose,
perhaps to a final goal ...

.... and beware, there are "other thinkers" here, they just choose to
remain hidden and duck the wrath and arrows of the "rote-ly educated."

JS