Hi Art

Since you top post I guess it is appropriate for me to do so also. I
assume you make the comment about "fade away" without really expecting to do
so. I still want to see data, any data that applies to your statement
that Yagiis are inefficient antennas. As far as I know, you are correct
about Yagi efficiency. I have been trying to understand how it can be
determined that Yagiis are inefficient. At the beginning of this thread, I
anticipated reading some data that I could understand. I have begun to
think that data on Yagi efficiency probably doesnt exist. I encourage to
show that I'm wrong about the data.

Jerry






"art" wrote in message
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O.K. Jerry so you are having problems with me and I can understand
that.
So are you saying I should put an end to this thread before I get
deeper into a hole?
I am a nothing now tho one time I worked for G.E. as an engineer to get
a retirement pension but that is in the past because I also am old and
have the normal frailties that come with old age and where maybe I
should consider myself past it and fade away!
Many have said that so perhaps I should fade away gracefully and
continue the hobby in isolation

Jerry Martes wrote:
"art" wrote in message
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Jerry, Are you concurring with his judgement that I am a blithering
idiot and he gets your vote? I find it so hard to believe that
engineers need only to read the first page of anything and determine
from that and with their perceived knowledge they can trash a complete
paper. I am trying to state things in an extremely elementary way so
that aspiring hams on the side lines can get an understanding of my
scheme of things with respect to this new antenna array aproach which
differs from that of a yagi and whose benefits I will get to later if I
am allowed to


Hi Art

Show me some numbers and some data and I'll change my mind. I never
said
that you were a blithering idiot. I am not qualified to make a
statement
like that about someone I dont know. But, you do write alot of text in
which you apparently dont care about anyone being able to understand.
Blithering idiots do that too.
Please be aware, I really like real technical challenges that dont
require
alot of theoretical math type proofs. But, when the challenge is to
prove
you wrong (or right) about the "Efficiency" of a Yagi I'd anticipate
there
would be some data (measured or calculated) coming from you. I havent
seen
the data.

I too find it hard to believe that engineers (in general)need to read
only
the first page of a paper in order to understand the entire text. I used
to
work with alot of engineers. I really admire their ability to think
analytically. I consider engineers to be smart people , but reading
only
one page of a mulitpage document then be sure the entire paper is trash.
I
do believe that a perspicacious, experienced engineer has to be able to
perceive if the rest of any paper is worth reading if the first page is
written as though it was authored by a blithering idiot. Otherwise
that
engineer could waste alot of valuable time.

I am not an aspiring HAM, but I once was. Now I'm an old, kinda
ignorant, HAM. They are probably quite similar. But, Art, I just
have
alot of difficulty trying to understand your posts. Maybe you have a
"paper" that I could study. Tell me where I can read it. I still like
to
learn new things.

My advice to you, Art, is Pay close attention to the advice of the
really good engineers that post here on this forum. If you cant
identify
them, ask Richard Clark. He's one of them.