Dee Flint wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message
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Preposterous, that is like arguing liberty = murder. We all have absolute
liberty, granted by our creator, we govern ourselfs in its use. The people
have that right, the government does not, unless it serves as only a tool
of the people in doing so. There is much confusion here, laws do NOT give
us rights and/or liberty, they only serve to remove or control those.
Before we apply law, we are only governed by our creator, and he has given
us all free will.


No I'm saying that all our rights do have limits and that it is for a very
good reason. If our rights were absolute, they would have no limits and we
could indeed kill each other to attempt to insure those rights. Society has
decided (and rightly so) that doesn't work too well for the survival of
society. The moment society decides that some rules are required to make
that society work, then our rights are limited.

in many cases we CAN indeed kill those that inpinge on our rights

Here in Michigan I can as can you Kill to defend yourself or your
property the laws inhibiting were pared back effective around the first
of OCT of this year

in other case we may indeed argue some form of justifaction for even
the act of homocide in defense of our right