Actually. many older rigs used external power supplies such as 
the Heathkit SB and HW series rigs, many of the Hallicrafters 
(HT-44, etc) and Collins rigs (S-line). Not that many 100 watt 
tranceivers used internal supplies. The reason its gone the way of 
the dodo bird is because of solid state output stages that require 
lotsa current. 
 
Cost....I'm looking for used, older stuff at a junkfest. Take a 
guess!  ;-)  Don't even mind taking on a fixer-upper if 
the price is right. 
 
I prefer tube finals for several reasons. They are inherently more 
forgiving to things like high SWR, mistuning, etc. Plus I have a 
nice stock of 6146's. I feel very comfortable working with tubes, 
replacing capacitors, etc. Also true for transistors, but replacements, 
when they are needed, are expensive and a pain to install. 
Over the years I have come across many rigs with solid state 
finals for sale, cheap (blown outputs). I can take a hint! 
 
Thanks to everyone that has offered their advice. Its greatly 
appreciated. Maybe if I win the Lottery, I'll buy a new radio. 
 
Steve W6SSP 
 
 
Dee D. Flint  wrote in message 
  .com... 
 
 "Ralph Mowery"  wrote in message 
 ... 
  
  "Steve"  wrote in message 
  ... 
   Hi Gang, 
   The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been 
   thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. 
   My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. 
   
   Here are my requirements; 
   
   tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC 
bands, 
   100 watts out, internal power supply 
   
   Would be nice, but not necessary; 
   
   12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, 
   a Kenwood rig, AM 
  
  YOu left out the most important thing.  How much money do you plan on 
  putting into the rig ? 
  
  While the tube finals are what you want, it may be time to rethink that 
to 
  the solid state finals as the tubes (inexpensive) and tube rigs are 
 getting 
  harder to come by.  By now some of them are getting old enough that the 
  capacitors are starting to give problems. 
 
 Also the built in power supply seems to have gone the way of the dodo 
bird. 
 None of the current Kenwoods or Icoms come with a built in power supply. 
Of 
 the Yaesu models, only the FT-1000D has the power supply built in but this 
 radio is HF only. 
 
 If you want built in 6m capability as part of the radio, you need to look 
at 
 radios made in the last 5 to 10 years.  The Kenwood TS-570S(G) but not the 
 TS-570D(G) covers HF+6m and is all mode.  It does not have tube finals. 
It 
 does not have a built in power supply.  The TS-2000 covers HF+6m+2m and is 
 all mode.  Again it doesn't have tube finals and doesn't have a built in 
 power supply. 
 
 Dee D. Flint, N8UZE 
 
 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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