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Old December 28th 06, 05:10 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
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Default So who won the "when does NoCode happen" pool?

Mike Coslo wrote:
wrote in
ups.com:


Bill Sohl wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Robert Casey wrote:
Back a year or three, there was a thread asking for peoples'
predictions on when the FCC would do no-code for all licenses. So
who came closest? I know that I didn't.

Hello Robert,

SNIP
Here's an update on the "when will FCC drop Element 1?" pool.
This means the effective date of the FCC action that completely
eliminates Morse Code testing for any class of amateur radio
license in the USA.

Note how almost all the predicted dates and all of the *second*
predicted dates have already passed:

WA2SI: September 13, 2003 (first prediction)
KF6TPT: September 29, 2003
KC8EPO: December 31, 2003
K2UNK: January 1, 2004 (first prediction)
K2ASP: March 15, 2004
AA2QA: April 1, 2004
N2EY: April 15, 2004
N3KIP: May 1, 2004 (first prediction)
KC8PMX: July 1, 2004
WA2ISE: August 1, 2004
K3LT: September 15, 2004
WK3C: December 30, 2004
N4PGW: May 22, 2005
N8UZE: July 1, 2005 (first prediction)
N3KIP: December 31, 2005 (second prediction)
N8UZE: January 31, 2006 (second prediction)
N2EY: March 1, 2006 (second prediction)
KB9RQZ: April 1, 2006
K2UNK: July 1, 2006 (second prediction)
AB2RC: July 1, 2007
KB3EIA: July 5, 2007
W5TIT: June 1, 2008
WA2SI: Complete elimination not within the foreseeable future
(second prediction)

Right now it looks like AB2RC is the winner, with K2UNK a close
second.

Even though K2UNK's date is closer to the announcement date, the
rule states "effective date of the FCC action that completely
eliminates Morse Code testing for any class of amateur radio
license in the USA". Which cannot be any earlier than January 19,
2007, and will probably be late February or even early March 2007
if the 60 day rule is in effect.

Hi Jim and the few others that can still post a mmessage in RRAP that
indicates some common sense, logic and respect.


Hello Bill!

Hey, a close second... :-)


Very close - but each day it gets closer to AB2RC's date.


If only I had specified "announcement date", Bill would have won.

Who'd a thought the FCC would footdrag as long as they did.


Not me! Heck, my *second* predicted date was almost a year ago, and my
first prediction almost three years ago.


When the treaty changed way back in 2003, the announcement on the ARRL
website said the process could take as long as two years. I thought
that was way too long. Turns out it's already more than 3-1/2 years!

Maybe I should start a new pool, in which people get to predict the
growth
or decline in the number of US amateurs by a certain date after the
new rules.....

How about a pool on when the inmates running the RRAP asylum will
finalkly wear themselves out. I can't believe these characters have
the time which they devooote to their infintile and sophmoric
postings.


The moderated version of rrap will come on line soon. That will be a
different game entirely.

I suspect that, given the recent "omnibus" R&O and the code test R&O,
we will not see more changes to Part 97 for a long time.

Cheers to the goodguys like Jim who have stuck it out.


Thanks, but my time here is limited. I'll continue to post the ARS
license numbers and make some occasional comments, but the noise level
is so high that I read perhaps 2% of what is posted to rrap.


Hey Jim,


Hello Mike

Since I started using Xnews, rrap is nice and clean.


I shall look for Xnews. Been using Googlegroups and searching by
various words and callsigns. Still an incredible amount of noise.

I'm curious about the "moderated" version of rrap. Will it be fun
enough for the members?


Depends on what the members consider "fun".

I've seen enough in here to know that part of
the fun is in the namecalling.


For some. Not for me.

Even if one doesn't engage in it, they
probably get something out of it.


There *is* a certain satisfaction to pointing out when someone's
statements
are unsupported by facts and/or logic.

It just got way out of hand the past
year.


What I saw happen was a war of words in which a few would take over
every thread.

And regarding the pool, I still say let's not call it finished
until its finished.


I didn't call it finished. I simply said that AB2RC looks like the
winner.

If the effective date is July 2, 2007, you and AB2RC will be tied.
After that date, you'll be the frontrunner.

But July is a ways off. Even if it takes FCC 60 days to get the R&O in
the Federal Register, and even if the rules don't become effective
until 60 days after that, we're still talking late April or so. I think
it will happen a lot sooner.

The really interesting thing will be how the license numbers will be
affected.

Have a great New Year!


You, too. Straight Key Night starts on Sunday evening.

73 de Jim, N2EY