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Old December 28th 06, 11:27 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Default Gaussian law and time varying fields


Dave wrote:
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David,

You have done a lot of talking but no walking. You have never said or
showed why my concept must be wrong, just possible this or possible
that. With all your books that you have does it say anywhere that
static equations cannot be used for electromagnetic problems?


yes, all of them.

Have you a book that says you cannot add curl to a Gaussian field ?


you may add whatever you want, but it doesn't make physical sense assuming
your 'Gaussian' field is actually the 'Electric'.

I challenge
you to find such a quote anywhere. You have never supplied anything
that supports your views used to disparaged mine not one. Now David are
you familiar with the NEC format antenna programs or familiar with
matlab?


yes, i am the writter of a modeling program for lightning on high voltage
power lines that uses similar techniques to NEC and other large finite
element programs. And i am intimitately familiar with modeling systems in
matlab, simulink, and easy5. none of them will give you the answer you want
if you use them properly. use any of them improperly as you have been and
you can get any answer you want, even ones that aren't physically
realizable.


I think that these are sufficiently disimmilar to show that if
they arrive at the same conclusion it is not a fluke. Do you own any
computor program of any sort?


i have AO and YO here, which are adequate for modeling amateur antennas. i
have used nec2, emtp, matlab, simulink, easy5, ansoft's 2d and 3d
eletrostatic and dynamic field analysis modules, written software for GE,
LM, GD, Chrysler, several US Navy projects, and EPRI. and am presently
gainfully employed working on a very large modeling project.

Frankly I have the idea that you don't
own one and have never played with one but then you may have one tucked
away that you never use. What program were you capable of using, that
you can now use even tho you are of advanced age?


pick one, but they are only as good as the input they are given.

I am willing to give you the opportunity of doing just a little walk to
prove your personal abilities. I can give you a dimensioned array that
proves my concept and no matter what program you use you are welcome to


no, you can't.

Wow, you disappoint me no, you probably disapoint Richard and Roy who
over the years have set the tone of this group that got rid of the
likes of Tom, Gary and a few other
well known amaateurs that knew what they are talking about. But you
haven't turned out as successfull as they have with others, you melted
away in the face of challenged and you didn't resort to bad language
when you were unable to sustain your engineering status and now fall
flat on your face.
All this talk about how good you were and your knoweledge of computor
programs and now you say that if you used it it would be worthless. I
sort of believe that your work revolved around a testing range but it
is looking more and more like you were the gateman or caretaker. For
the others on the newsgroup take a lesson from this
if you wonder why so many well known hams are not patrons of this
newsgroup. Only Cecil
has taken their jabs over the years but stood his ground. Now after a
straight forward challenge with no restrictions as to what they use to
discredit me they have shown that they have no backbone and are
basically the reason over the years that this newsgroup has fallen into
the gutter.their efforts Rest assured that Richard and co will continue
with their effort even tho David failed them. I suppose I could say to
David to put up or shut up but it doesn't really matter anymore since
we all now know who he is and what he is, a nothing,
a plain nothing who thought he could succeed by just mouthing of and
telling how good he is
and I pulled the rope in a bit more and he continued as Richard and co
cheered from the side lines to give you more confidence. Then I put out
the rope a little bit more and with false confidence you came further
in only to find that I had dropped the rope and faced you head on with
a challenge. OIfcourse it was a shock and you ran like hell with your
tail between your legs in the face of a challenge to your so called
technical claims. True those triumps may have been made when you were
younger whereas now old age has placed chains around your brain and
this does happen but in future don't be taken in by those who like to
stir things and then back off when the fighting starts because they
have no interest in you or your failure as they have shown over the
years that it is easy to get somebody else. David I am sorry for you
but surely you knew that in the face of your relentless challenge there
was always the danger that things could turn around where with you lack
of engineering knoweledge you wouls eventually exposed. But take heart
you can still enjoy the hobby and the people that you meet, it is not
really necessary for you to posture as knoweledgable about antennas
because the majority of hams are not really impressed with such talk
and quickly recognise the face behind the mask, try just being yourself
and break loose from Roy and Richard who try to reign over this
newsgroup
Art







insert my array and thus shoot me to pieces and enhance your own statue
within the group. Your chance to show off your superiority with respect
to electromechanics, A simple way that affords you the chance to blow
your trumpet where it can really can be heard and appreciated.
So which way do you want to go,show a quotation that denies the
possibility of my concept or simply apply a dimensional drawing to any
program of you choice?
I really wanted to wait for a person to come along that I could trust
because of prior knoweledge, but I am getting tired of these assaults
that have no grounding so I give up and will submit.
I talked the talk and I walked the walk, in response you have only
talked and for what reason?

YOU HAVE WON,
I AM WILLING TO PROVIDE YOU AN ARRAY THAT DEMONSTRATES
MY ASSERTIONS AND WHERE USING ANY MEANS THAT YOU WISH YOU CAN
PUSH ME BACK TO THE STONE AGES AND STOP THIS NONSENSE


then build it and have it tested. that is better than any modeling that you
can do with existing programs, because none of them are going to prove your
concept... it just isn't physically realizable. i pointed that out on the
first example you gave and you never did seem to grasp the problem, go by
all means go back to the stone age, apply some heat to metal and build your
magic array.


SHOW EVERYBODY WHAT YOU ARE REALLY MADE OF
WHAT IS REALLY BEHIND THAT FACELESS MASK?


its only faceless to those who don't want to gaze upon it and understand.