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From: on Tues, Dec 19 2006 6:30 pm
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From: on Sun, Dec 17 2006 3:22 pm
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Jim Hampton wrote:
Perhaps now we can discuss N2EY's proposal for a No-Test service.
There was never any such proposal. You are mistaken, in error, and just
plain wrong.
sure there is you have often said
Jim/N2EY was the very first to roll that one out, at least that I am
aware of.
I am not in favor of a "No-Test" amateur radio service. Nor have I ever
advocated such.
Anyone who says I have is mistaken - in error - just plain wrong.
So when you trotted that one out way back when, it really was a
strawman as I described it then. Yet you said it wasn't.
Brian, we have to quit trying to make
admit to doing
wrong.
What "doing wrong" do you mean, Len?
Brian Burke says I came up with a proposal for a "No-Test" amateur
radio service. Yet nobody seems to be able to show us that alleged
proposal.
Brian and Len and Mark aren't the only ones who recall that you came up
with the idea.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en
Yet *none* of you have actually shown the posting where I allegedly did
this.
Anyone can go into google and delete one of their own postings.
Perhaps - if the person has a google account. But I have not done that.
Of course not.
Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?
1) To get you into an endless argument loop
2) To misdirect away from the fact that he doesn't have any proof or
evidence to back up his claims.
All my old rrap postings are intact in the archives.
Of course.
Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?
1) To get you into an endless argument loop
2) To misdirect away from the fact that he doesn't have any proof or
evidence to back up his claims.
And a person cannot delete the postings of another.
Didn't say they could.
So if A post
something, and A is quoted by B, the quote will still show up in B's
posting even if A deletes his post.
And if B deletes his post? Would that be a conspiracy?
This is getting interesting. If "A" states something that you believe
could be mined as a juicy nugget and "B", a person at odds with the
statement of "A", replies, you think "A" could convince "B" to cancel
his post? That sounds preposterous. There aren't many conspiracies in
which two parties with completely opposite views agree to conspire, are
there?
Of course not. What's more, such discussions often result in more than
one party quoting.
That's
why I can't find the posting of Dave Heil/K8MN saying that Veteran's
always have their hands out.
How can you be sure?
Perhaps you did not correctly remember what was actually written.
Your memory of postings here has been proved to be selective and
inaccurate.
Ditto your remembrance of what valuable contributions the Amateur
Service made during WWII when the Amateur Service was shut down and you
weren't born yet.
I don't recall that Jim claimed such as his memories. He stated
historical fact.
For example, recently you made some significant mistakes
in your account of FDR's treatment of veterans during the Great
Depression.
I wasn't alive then, how could I remember it?
Who said that you'd remember it? Did you ever take a history class?
Did you ever do any independent research on a subject?
You're missing the point, Dave.
Brian was pushing the idea of "liberal disdain for the military" and
cited Democrat FDR's alleged violent treatment of the Bonus Marchers as
an example. But it was in fact the Republican Hoover Administration
that used force against them.
The way Brian remembered the Bonus Marchers was inaccurate, but he
presented it anyway, without checking his facts, and left it up to
others to point out his mistakes.
Think about why.
Shall I repost those mistakes of yours and the corrections?
Why not just repost your statements of a no-test amateur radio service.
Can't re-post what I never posted in the first place.
You're beginning to act in a very peculiar manner, Brian.
Beginning?
That's because you are mistaken.
Four people are mistaken.
That is correct. The truth is the truth, regardless of how many deny
it.
Yep. Four people are mistaken.
It would appear so. You've failed to come up with an archived post
which states what you claim. You've not been able to come up with any
replies to such a post, quoting Jim's words.
Anyone can make unsubstantiated claims on usenet.
Is there a conspiracy
between Jim and those who would be at odds with such a post to erase all
evidence that the post was ever made?
Of course not. But Brian got you to reply, didn't he?
People sometimes "remember" things that did not happen.
Four people "remember" things which did not happen.
Yep. You're one of them. Deal with it.
That is correct. Four people remember things which did not happen.
Yep.
Where is the evidence that the "things" took place?
"Google never forgets"
Bogart never says "Play it again, Sam" in "Casablanca", yet that
misquote became so popular that it became the title of another film.
If you could *show* where I supposedly came up with - originated - a
proposal for a no-test amateur service, you might be able to prove *me*
to be mistaken.
But so far you've not been able to do that, even though all my posts
are in Google, waiting for you.
Sure they are.
Yes, they are.
Sure.
You're one obstinate character, Brian.
That's because you are mistaken. Or maybe even trying to deceive.
Four people are mistaken.
At least that many.
If more than four are mistaken, how many do you predict?
This is your charade, Brian. Why don't you do the predictions?
Consider what his goal really is.