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Old January 2nd 07, 02:00 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
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Jim Hampton wrote:
Perhaps now we can discuss N2EY's proposal for a No-Test service.
There was never any such proposal. You are mistaken, in error, and just
plain wrong.
sure there is you have often said
Jim/N2EY was the very first to roll that one out, at least that I am
aware of.
I am not in favor of a "No-Test" amateur radio service. Nor have I ever
advocated such.
Anyone who says I have is mistaken - in error - just plain wrong.
So when you trotted that one out way back when, it really was a
strawman as I described it then. Yet you said it wasn't.
Brian, we have to quit trying to make
admit to doing
wrong.
What "doing wrong" do you mean, Len?

Brian Burke says I came up with a proposal for a "No-Test" amateur
radio service. Yet nobody seems to be able to show us that alleged
proposal.
Brian and Len and Mark aren't the only ones who recall that you came up
with the idea.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en
Yet *none* of you have actually shown the posting where I allegedly did
this.
Anyone can go into google and delete one of their own postings.
Perhaps - if the person has a google account. But I have not done that.

Of course not.

Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?


I'm being manipulated by some unknown, evil force.

All my old rrap postings are intact in the archives.

Of course.

Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?


I'm being manipulated by some unknown, evil force.


Four of us are. :-)

[may the Force be with us!]


"Luke, I am your father!"

And a person cannot delete the postings of another.

Didn't say they could.

So if A post
something, and A is quoted by B, the quote will still show up in B's
posting even if A deletes his post.

And if B deletes his post? Would that be a conspiracy?

This is getting interesting. If "A" states something that you believe
could be mined as a juicy nugget and "B", a person at odds with the
statement of "A", replies, you think "A" could convince "B" to cancel
his post? That sounds preposterous. There aren't many conspiracies in
which two parties with completely opposite views agree to conspire, are
there?


Are those the conditions of the conspiracy? Perhaps David Heil
responded to the initial no-test proposal...


It's all a "grande conspiracy" against the Morsemen! :-)


Poor things.

That's
why I can't find the posting of Dave Heil/K8MN saying that Veteran's
always have their hands out.
How can you be sure?

Perhaps you did not correctly remember what was actually written.

Your memory of postings here has been proved to be selective and
inaccurate.

Ditto your remembrance of what valuable contributions the Amateur
Service made during WWII when the Amateur Service was shut down and you
weren't born yet.

I don't recall that Jim claimed such as his memories. He stated
historical fact.


Wow! Another delusional amateur.


Amateur extra morsemen "know" all, "see" all. They took the
highest-rate code test, therefore They are Always Right!


Historical fact, huh? The amateur service really didn't get shut down
during WWII?

For example, recently you made some significant mistakes
in your account of FDR's treatment of veterans during the Great
Depression.

I wasn't alive then, how could I remember it?

Who said that you'd remember it? Did you ever take a history class?
Did you ever do any independent research on a subject?


Yes, of course. That doesn't mean that I lived it.


Jimmie Noserve LIVED all he talked about. He is an expert
on veterans affairs...


He was probably in Vietnam and at Woodstock at the same time.

Shall I repost those mistakes of yours and the corrections?

Why not just repost your statements of a no-test amateur radio service.

You're beginning to act in a very peculiar manner, Brian.


Who is Brian?


Good question! :-)


Hell if I know?

That's because you are mistaken.
Four people are mistaken.

That is correct. The truth is the truth, regardless of how many deny
it.

Yep. Four people are mistaken.

It would appear so. You've failed to come up with an archived post
which states what you claim. You've not been able to come up with any
replies to such a post, quoting Jim's words. Is there a conspiracy
between Jim and those who would be at odds with such a post to erase all
evidence that the post was ever made?


Is there?


Wow...old Jimmie just NEVER will answer a challenge directly!


That's Quitefine.

People sometimes "remember" things that did not happen.


Four people "remember" things which did not happen.


Yep. You're one of them. Deal with it.

That is correct. Four people remember things which did not happen.
Yep.

Where is the evidence that the "things" took place?


As you can see, there is nonet. Except that four people remember it.


Everyone challenging Jimmie is WRONG! :-)


They would have been wrong anyway. That's just how it is with
Morsemen.

Bogart never says "Play it again, Sam" in "Casablanca", yet that
misquote became so popular that it became the title of another film.
If you could *show* where I supposedly came up with - originated - a
proposal for a no-test amateur service, you might be able to prove *me*
to be mistaken.

But so far you've not been able to do that, even though all my posts
are in Google, waiting for you.


Sure they are.


Yes, they are.

Sure.

You're one obstinate character, Brian.


Who is Brian?


Tsk, Jimmie beats us all in the Obstinacy Department! Why,
at the drop of a carrier he will once again trot out a seven-
year-old suggestion I once made to the FCC in a comment
on FCC 98-143 to show "the error of my ways (and every-
thing else)!" :-)


That was almost 9 years ago.

That's because you are mistaken. Or maybe even trying to deceive.


Four people are mistaken.


At least that many.

If more than four are mistaken, how many do you predict?

This is your charade, Brian. Why don't you do the predictions?

Dave K8MN


I've maintained that only four people are mistaken, you say more. How
many more?


Sigh...these obstinate Mighty Macho Morsemen must be powered
by Ever-Ready batteries! They keep on going...and going...and
going...

I wish they'd all leave. :-)

LA


I just wish they'd behave.