On 13 Jan 2007 17:46:15 -0800, "AC7PN" wrote:

I would have to run the wires down the face of the cliff to make one of
those. Using NEC I just don't know how to simulate the ground effects
when the land falls away at a 30-50 degree angle. At one place there
is a 60 ft shear verticle drop. My unterminated beverage off the cliff
headed East works well on receive but it is terrible on transmit.

Beverages aren't supposed to work for transmitting so don't be
discouraged by that. I would think that the ground falling away would
be an advantage. Maybe Roy would care to comment on this, but I'd
just model it using the slope on those wires as if you have a really
high support point on the apex of the vee. Keep in mind that if you
don't terminate the legs of the vee then it will be bi-directional, so
if you're in the San Juans and point that sucker toward Florida you
should do equally well into Asia. Gee, I wish I had your problem! ; )

S.T.W.