"Bob Brock" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:28:21 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:49:50 -0500, Bob Brock
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:00:35 -0500, "Dr.Ace" wrote:


"Bob Brock" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:44:45 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:36:30 -0500, Bob Brock
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:13:00 -0500, "KH6HZ" wrote:

Great proposal.

Can't wait to cast my vote for the affirmative.

The only dissenting opinion you'll find are those who wish to spew
their
sewage into a forum like such, and will otherwise be shut out from
doing
so.


73
KH6HZ


That's not true. I'll vote against it and you can hardly accuse me
of
being shut out since I left here years ago rather than waste many
hours accomplishing nothing constructive. The reason being that this
group is too polarized with no room for dissenting opinions. No
moderation is going to be impartial because no moderators are
impartial. Therefore, a moderated ng will not reflect the opinions
of
hams in general. Instead, they will reflect the opinions approved by
biased moderators.

My advice is to go to googlegroups, yahoogroups, or any of the other
*.groups and start your own moderated community/group there instead
of
trying to start your own moderated newsgroup on Usenet. It's a lot
easier.

I would say that without people whose only objective is to stifle
dissenting opinion gone, this would be a better newsgroup. However,
we all know that people will post to both newsgroups and probably get
banned for something that they posted here.

I had hoped that, once the code vs. no-code childishness was over,
these ng's would be useful again. I'm beginning to see that I was
wrong.

I'll try back here in a few years to see if things have improved any.

please try this gruop agin in few months the Procder are through
crying and NoCoder are still waiting the very end of the matter

I am curious and doing reasearch on wether there is colaration of
being for or against this NG and ones stance on code testing I
respectly ask if you were either ProCode or Nocode or none of the
above I thank esp if you satisfy my curiousity

73

I am one of those that were alleged not to exist. I've waited for
over 10 years for code to go away before I would upgrade. However, I
decided that, rather than waste time here, my efforts would be better
spent actively trying to drag ham radio into the 20th century.

That being said. I see no benefit to a moderated group and would not
participate in one. Self-moderation by all sides would go a long
ways. Establishing a moderated newsgroup on policy defeats it's own
purpose of providing open discussion.

Perhaps those who control the Big 8 will feel the same as myself.
Perhaps they won't. Either way, it's of no real consequence since I
have no interest in subscribing to such a newsgroup.

73


Hi All,
I've been following along the discussions.
And Mr. Brock, I have to say I personally am in favor of discussion of
the
NG's topic. Self-moderation has proven it's self to lead to name
calling,
personal attacks, CB'ers attacking hams and may more such useless posts
and
cross posts.
I agree with KH6HZ , who said

"Great proposal.
Can't wait to cast my vote for the affirmative."


I think KH6HZ has hit the nail on the head. I couldn't have said it
better.
73 all, Ace - WH2T


You guys do realize that you don't get to "vote" don't you? I
guessing that the constant referrals to getting to vote are some kind
of an inside joke.

could be that someonbody knows the Or thinks they know even more
likely) that the fix is in
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

Given the lack of replies, I guess it wasn't an inside joke. Mark,
why do you worry about it so much? If they want a private country
club type atmosphere, and those who control the Big 8 don't mind
allocating the resources to it, why not let them have a little place
of their own. Don't worry, this place isn't going anywhere and they
won't be able to resist dropping by to do what they have always done
before they retreat back to the country club to brag.

Frankly, I see it as a waste of band space, but band space is cheap
these days. Look it as a consolation prize now that they have to
share all those HF frequencies with people who didn't lean the code,
they can at least have a little piece of cyberspace. Why the didn't
go to Yahoo groups or Myspacegroups still eludes me and no one has
cared to reply. Must be some kind of a prestige thing.

It's OK though, because I really don't care what they do or where they
do it. Freedom of speech is a great thing even if some have to feel
protected to exercise it.

You have been taken in by the oldest scam in ham radio. Your logs mean
nothing because you never did moonbounce after all and just talked to a guy
with a 100 mw qrp rig somewheres nearby. We are all laughing at you.



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