David G. Nagel wrote:

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Cec;

Been there, argued that, the mathematicians shot me down. It just don't
happen that way. Sorry Man.

Dave N

David:

If there is one thing you will have to learn, DON'T TRUST MATHEMATICIANS!

Think about it man, what would they have told you before the "Quantum
Effects" were discovered, if you had suggested such a phenomenon? ... I
bet they would have told you, you were nuts, and gone on to prove it
mathematically! In some situations, mathematicians are barely better
than tea leave readers.

Regards,
JS