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From: Bob Brock on Mon, Jan 29 2007 11:10 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_Radio

Bob, thanks for the "Wiki-up" on Allied, including Allied Radio.

If you haven't been here for years, you might not understand
how Heil's "game" is played. :-) Let me explain:

There was no game, Leonard. I supplied you factual information.
Your response was something about Allied lying.

A long time ago, in a State department far away, Heil got
totally ****ed with me in here for not going overboard
with gratuitous praise and congratulations on his mighty
efforts at hamming embassies in the middle of Africa.

[deliberate factual errors]


Especially Guinea-Bisseau.

"Guinea-Bissau", Len, but not especially.

Since then he's seen fit to
"correct" me as much as possible. Gotta love it when he
tries SO hard! :-)

....and succeeds so often. :-)

[he *IS* a code-tested extra and thus very "superior"]

In amateur radio, Len, every licensed op is superior to you. You aren't
involved.

I am not interested in ALLIED (Radio or by the single name)
corporate history. I'm only interested in the parts they
sell, the price for those parts, and whether or not they
have them in stock.

You seemed extremely interested just a post or two back. You were, you
stated, around for the company's birth.

So much the better if the signs point
to them staying in business over a year from now. If not,
I look for another distributor that sells in small to large
quantities (there are many of them in the USA and Canada).
No sweat there.

No one indicated that you should sweat, Len. I happened to be commenting
on Radio Shack and Tandy's acquisition and takeover of the Allied in
1970. You felt the need to come in with keyboard blazing.

I am well acquainted with "Allied Radio" and actually was
in there store in the second week of February, 1956, my
Dad with me (I had gone along with his meeting of some
model industry supers, then to Fort Sheridan to see if
my footlocker had arrived yet...it hadn't). Large store
interior but almost entirely displays of parts and some
instruments, which made me a bit disappointed in a way.
Expected more. I had ordered "radio parts" from them
in 1948 and then in 1954 while in the Army in Japan, had
always seen their ads in publications of that time. [I
built a thermin for a buddy in '54, he being a music
instructor in civilian life] Allied Radio catalogs were
very thin in those days, perhaps the thickest I remember
is around 3/8 inch. Yes, they has "radio parts" but
their market was mainly industry and the electronic
hobbies went beyond radio then. Chicago was "far away"
at 90 miles before I entered the Army. :-)

That's a nice story, Len. Almost all electronic distributors of that
day also sold amateur radio equipment and, in that time, almost no one
discounted any of it.

ALLIED's 2007 catalog is BIG at over 2000 pages. I'm not
going to look at "all" of them to see if "Tandy" is
mentioned despite Heil's insistence that 20-year-old
corporate history is SOOOOO important! :-)

You didn't need to look. I provided you with a quote from the company's
history and Bob provided you with a Wikipedia link and post info from
that site. I never stressed any importance of the company history. You
didn't like it that you were wrong. Deal with it. You're often wrong.

ALLIED is
very much IN BUSINESS and looks to stay that way for a
long time. By e-mail or by voice telephone the staff is
nice and obliging, on-the-job...no detectable Indian
accents. :-) I've gotten a few samples from Chicago
electronic companies shipped from ALLIED stock, believe
it or not. Good service.

I'm very happy for you, Len.


A great problem with some olde-tyme hammes is that NONE
of the biggie electronics parts distributors stock much
HF "radio" parts that they expect. The parts market just
isn't there any more. Real radio parts are involved at
frequencies higher than HF. Those are in abundance.
Anyone who wants old-style HF "radio" parts has to go
to smaller mail outlets such as Ocean State Electronics.
But, they will be shocked by the high prices charged,
not at all as low as when they were adolescents.

One can go to a tiny place like RF Parts Company and find lots of HF
radio parts, even high power components and transmitting tubes of all
varieties for amplifiers.

The same with "plate and filament" transformers. About
the only outlet in North America for stock parts is a
Hammond division up in Canada (distributed by Mouser
down here).

Hammond is distributed by many distributors.

Fine products I hear, but the cost is high.

Hammond makes very high quality products and the cost is not high at
all. The company also produces a quality line of die cast boxes of
almost any size.

Electronics parts are, and have been for decades,
oriented to lower-voltage semiconductor technology.

That's true to an extent. There is still a sizable market for high
power RF components in commercial radio, industry and amateur radio.

What was once a provence of ham radio builders is now
much much larger in favor of computer-digital
components.

"Province", Len. There are still numerous manufacturers of radio
equipment which require radio components.

Vacuum tubes (from new, old stock), if you
can get them, now cost five times what they did in 1960
and go up from there.

There are still numerous vacuum tubes produced by Russian, Chinese and
U.S. makers. I'm glad that they only cost five times what they did in
1960. Many things I buy today cost ten or more times what I would have
paid in 1960. Have you bought a pack of chewing gum or a rib-eye steak
lately?

The old days are GONE. They
won't come back as they once were.

That's right, Len. There's no long a Johnson Messenger vacuum tube CB
radio being made.

Now, as to Heil, he doesn't know his chain gets yanked
and his buttons pushed by me. :-)

Oh, you're a regular puppet master, Len. You're the great and powerful
Wizard of Odds.

That's part of my
game whenever he puts on the Waffen SS persona and tells
me "you never did such a thing!" or puts on the little
red hat while dancing to organ-grinder Miccolis' tune on
"corrections."

I have to ask Len: How did you come up with the fiendishly clever part
of your scheme in which you end up looking so foolish?

It is both funny and tragic that they
carry on like they do, but that's their way in here.

Actually, Len, you have it slightly wrong. You carry on like you do and
wonder why folks don't take to your nonsense.

Shrug...I've seen worse on BBSs after first doing
computer-modem comms 22 years ago. Usually I just shine
them off but the chain-yanking and button-pushing urge
gets irresistable and off we go. Poor Heil doesn't
realize he's been controlled every time he tries to
control others! :-) Gotta love it...! :-)

I musta been hIp-No-tiZeD! The funny part is where you put both of your
brogans into your yap in your sidewalk superintendent persona. I found
a Shinola ad in an old magazine the other day, Len. I think I'll scan
it and provide a link to the ad. It'll be a reminder of one of the
things you don't know.

Regards,

See IEEE Code of Ethics

Dave K8MN