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Dave Heil · January 31st 07, 04:50 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:59 pm, "
wrote:
From: on Tues, Jan 30 2007 3:40 am

Mr. DX was able to "scarf up DX calls" courtesy of WORKING
IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT and getting DIPLOMATIC COURTESY from
foreign nations. Any way one slices it, Herr Oberst was
able to do that while being EMPLOYED at work that was NOT
devoted to amateur radio. DIPLOMATIC COURTESY.

Did der Robust Oberst ACTUALLY TAKE THOSE FOREIGN AMATEUR
RADIO TESTS...IN THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGES? Hard to say
but it is likely he will not, nor ever, admit that
DIPLOMATIC COURTESY was the major via for that "scarfing."

That's hard for me to say, and I'm sure Dave won't say.

I've already said in the past. This isn't the first time that Foghorn
Lenhorn has attempted selling the exact same untruth. None of my
overseas licensing was obtained through any "DIPLOMATIC COURTESY". The
Department of State has no one facilitating amateur radio licensing for
its employees.

But if you check out the ARRL web site under operating from foreign
countries, something which all the smartie Extras should do before
they accuse people of being bootleggers, you'll find that a USA
license and a fee is usually enough to obtain a call in many
countries.

Reciprocity is the key. Obtaining a license overseas is normally done
by going to the PTT with a passport containing a valid visa for
residency or for a visit, a notarized photocopy of a U.S. amateur
license. An application is filled out and a fee is paid. Nobody at the
Department of State fills out the application. No embassy staff member
is tasked with filling out the application. The USG does not pay the
licensing fee. Americans working for private companies and American
tourists can do the very same thing.

Len has made a number of factual errors. You've just been witness to
another. Len not only has an ax to grind with amateur radio ops, ARRL
members, Morse Code operators and testing advocates. He doesn't like
the U.S. Department of State for whatever reason.

It went well beyond the "three hots and a cot" enjoyed by
long-ago military radio operators who've been in here and
bailed...the military that taught them morsemanship.

A skill greater in value than all the rest of amateur radio combined.

Aren't you curious about what went well beyond the "three hots and a
cot"? Len never gets around to telling us.

The State Department EMPLOYMENT served the government, but
using that as a cover for "scarfing up" foreign callsigns
is not an "achievement" of himself.

C'mon Len. I'm sure Dave did his job to the best of his ability.
Didit?

Len has made another factual error. Yes, I trotted down the the local
PTT, filled out the application, presented the necessary paperwork and
paid the fees all by myself.

I agree that it is
less reprehensible than going into collusion with another
amateur extra to falsify the intent, spirit of law to gain
personal emotional advantage of having non-existant club
trusteeships.

Riley has no dominion over Dave when he's operating out of the
country. On the other hand, Riley had his boot on the neck of one RF
Commando! Hi!

But you'll note that Leonard uses the term "less reprehensible" about
something which didn't take place the way he said it did and which was
not in any form reprehensible. If it *had* taken place the way he said
it took place, it *still* wouldn't have been reprehensible. He'd rather
ramble on, quizzing you about whether I took foreign radio amateur exams
in their native language. Well, I could have taken a Finnish amateur
radio exam in *English*. All it would have gotten me is a sequentially
issued Finnish call. I could have taken the Sierra Leonean and
Tanzanian exams in their official language--English. What would have
been the point. Reciprocity guaranteed me a license corresponding to
the highest class license each government issued. I was never concerned
that it might cause angst to non-radio amateur retiree on the U.S. West
Coast.

But, Heil was with the government and thinks he's here to
"help." Ptui.

LA

He's here when the bands are closed. That's all.

Careful about getting caught up in the factual errors. I worked quite a
number of Europeans on 160m the past four evenings.

Dave K8MN