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Dave Heil · January 31st 07, 07:27 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:59 pm, " wrote:
From: on Tues, Jan 30 2007 3:40 am
On Jan 30, 12:28 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:

When certain Extras tell me how to conduct my amateur life all the
while scarfing up a bunch of "club" calls, DX calls, and vanity calls,
then I see them as thinking they are somehow much more priveleged than
the next guy...
If you're the next guy, I'm much more privileged than you. Pass the
exams, Mr. Cheese. You too can be more privileged.
Mr Deignan's priveleges went beyond those authorized. Riley had to
reel him back in. Put him on the straight and narrow...
but he's still got a big mouth and a Hawaiin callsign.
By the way, I scarfed up a number of DX calls. I hope you don't mind.
Not at all. You were there, Mr DX. I approve.
Mr Deignan was there in PO Box only.
Did you loan out your PO Box to folks who wanted a cool Tanzanian call
sign? Did you get a cool Guam call sign having never been to Guam,
then pretend to Lecture people on how to run their amateur lives?
Mr. DX was able to "scarf up DX calls" courtesy of WORKING
IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT and getting DIPLOMATIC COURTESY from
foreign nations. Any way one slices it, Herr Oberst was
able to do that while being EMPLOYED at work that was NOT
devoted to amateur radio. DIPLOMATIC COURTESY.
Did der Robust Oberst ACTUALLY TAKE THOSE FOREIGN AMATEUR
RADIO TESTS...IN THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGES? Hard to say
but it is likely he will not, nor ever, admit that
DIPLOMATIC COURTESY was the major via for that "scarfing."
That's hard for me to say, and I'm sure Dave won't say.

But if you check out the ARRL web site under operating from foreign
countries, something which all the smartie Extras should do before
they accuse people of being bootleggers, you'll find that a USA
license and a fee is usually enough to obtain a call in many
countries.

Of course, for ordinary USA citizens.

It is naive to assume that Diplomatic Courtesy "did
NOT play a role" in those furrin' calls.

On the contrary, your lack of information about how things work led you
to a faulty conclusion. You formulated a theory based upon that faulty
conclusion and advanced it as fact. You assumed and you were wrong.
You made another of your factual errors.

Heil was
a USA EMBASSY STATIONED STATE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEE.
BFD.

You were the party attempting to make a big deal out of it, Len.
Foreign Service folks are "posted", not "stationed".

Diplomatic Courtesy alone would grease the wheels of
beaurocracy that exist in all governments.

Stick to things you know, Len. You'll look less foolish.

Even in
the big, rich, powerful nation of Guinea-Bisseau.

"Guinea-Bissau", Len.

If I remember (from long-ago postings in here), State's
"key list man"...

"Key Officers of Foreign Service Posts", Len. That's the list which you
erroneously stated was a telephone list. You looked foolish then too.

...was the ONLY amateur radio licensee in
Guinea-Bisseau? Distinct honor?

I was for all but four months of my tour. The other fellow was a Swede
who worked with the local maritime radio station. He wasn't a diplomat.

It went well beyond the "three hots and a cot" enjoyed by
long-ago military radio operators who've been in here and
bailed...the military that taught them morsemanship.

A skill greater in value than all the rest of amateur radio combined.

Ab-so-huckin-lutely! :-) Tension hut.

You aren't funny, Len.

The State Department EMPLOYMENT served the government, but
using that as a cover for "scarfing up" foreign callsigns
is not an "achievement" of himself.
C'mon Len. I'm sure Dave did his job to the best of his ability.
Didit?

Of course. Amateur radio was a big, tremendous, awesome
HELP to the Department of State. Lord knows that State
is sometimes run amateurishly... :-(

Thanks so very much in proving the point I made to Brian last night.

[Look...over to one side...Cranky is wiping off his
Spanky ruler to "admonish" me for felony charges of
"no respect for authority!" :-) ]

You continue to be a rude churl, Len. You can't help but fulfill the
well known profile of your behavior.

I agree that it is
less reprehensible than going into collusion with another
amateur extra to falsify the intent, spirit of law to gain
personal emotional advantage of having non-existant club
trusteeships.
Riley has no dominion over Dave when he's operating out of the
country. On the other hand, Riley had his boot on the neck of one RF
Commando! Hi!

There ya go!

But, Heil was with the government and thinks he's here to
"help." Ptui.
He's here when the bands are closed. That's all.

The bands are closed?!? You mean they aren't open 24/7 so
that any ham anywhere can talk all around the globe with
a teeny QRP rig on HF? Oh, my. That IS sad news. Kinda
goes against what the mighty gods of extra radio were
implying in here while busy giving me a "theory lecture."

It means that both you and Brian are mistaken.

Hmmm...maybe there's a "morseman holiday" or something,
like a bank holiday when all the banks are closed?

[now watch all the sirius-minded hop in here to "explain
the ionosphere" thinking I was actually serious above...]

I don't think there'll be much of a splash, Leonard. Folks are used to
you being wrong about things.

[jes' gotta LOVE some o' them dogged sirius folk sniffing
around their computer hydrants! Arf! :-) ]

Do you have a computer hydrant, Len?

Dave K8MN