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Old February 10th 07, 07:25 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
Leo Leo is offline
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Default Quantity Over Quality (Was: Unwritten policy and the intent of the average amateur ...)

On 9 Feb 2007 03:56:19 -0800, wrote:

On Feb 9, 2:17?am, "
wrote:
From: Leo on Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:49:50 -0500

wrote:
From: Leo on Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:35:00 -0500
wrote:
From: Leo on Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:03:16 -0500
On 7 Feb 2007 15:29:04 -0800, wrote:
On Feb 7, 4:40?pm, Leo wrote:
On 7 Feb 2007 03:25:23 -0800, wrote:


ith some the 'box' looks so pretty unopened that they
.ever do remove the pretty wrappings. shrug


You mean like the box your license is in?

The A and B classes dies a horrible death because - they were'nt
useable by the target audience. ure, there were transceivers
available for 450 MHz in 1945 - but they would have cost big bucks,
and been massive beasts as well. (as Ptoooey so aptly points out,
there were handheld units available for these frequencies in the
'50's, but they would have required King Kong's hand to hold them! And
King Kon's wallet to buy them, as well.....) .


ell he said, assuming a serious mien there was ONE
"simple" 400+ MHz transceiver...el cheapo modulated
/scillator cum super-regen detector. orgot who made
)t but it was really cheap in everything inside.


Do you mean the Vocaline unit?

There were others.


....of equally unpopular units. Gross may have been a pioneer, agreed
- but the CB service he built units for never got off the ground.


Google "Al Gross".

I had
'otten one free from another who wanted to set up a
,ink down in Inglewood, CA. t would reach, at best,
! mile and a half. hat was in the later 1950s and
4he UHF bow-tie and reflector aluminum wires had
!lready started to crystalize enough to snap off easily.
till had it when I moved into this house in 1963 but
4he steel chassis and steel cabinet were so rusty I just
4ossed it a year later. :-(


But, because there was a regulation in place that said "Citizen's
Band" (regardless of whether it was usable by the "citizens' without
exorbuiant expense and superhuman effort), then CB must have existed
in 1945.


So Len was wrong. Thanks for admitting that.


Brilliantly, you are agreeing with my paraphrase of your own
assertion! Nice reading comprehension....


ot quite. ur FCC was struggling mightily with all
3orts of post-WW2 regulation, radio service changes
"ack then...and preparing for the onslaught of TV in
'orgeous black and white. M broadcast was about to
-ove to double its pre-WW2 frequencies and the various
0ublic safety agencies wanted to get to "low band"
(30 to 50 MHz) and, maybe, "mid band" (150 to about
160 MHz). t would seem that the original US Citizens

and on UHF was a sort-of afterthought.
anufacturers
3tarted to lobby for lower frequencies in this tube-
/nly era and the post-WW2 FCC looked at the amateur
"11m" band (not an International allocation) and the
2est was history. adio-wise, the fit hit the shan
!fter 1958 with all sorts of different radio services
7anting this and that plus the electronics industry
(ad to step in to stop the color TV "war" between

BS Labs and RCA (neither one would have been
3uitable). ur FCC was barely keeping up with the
#hanges everywhere.

gain, "CB" was an afterthought
2adio service and NOBODY really anticipated the surge
)n off-shore design and production that would flood
. America by a decade later.


So you admit, Len, that FCC did indeed create CB long before 1958.


They created an impractical CB service which would later be replaced
with a far more practical one in '58.


Thanks for owning up to your earlier factual error.


LOL!


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btw, Len old chap:

The number of Technician class amateur licenses has never exceeded the
number of licenses of all other amateur license classes combined. You
were wrong on that too, some days back.


A fact, perhaps....at last!

(whew - that took a while!)


Thanks a heap.


No signoff?

73, Leo