On Feb 16, 10:44�am, wrote:
On 16 Feb 2007 10:32:15 -0800, "

wrote:
On Feb 16, 2:36?am, "KH6HZ" wrote:
wrote :

*"Congenial and constructive" discussion is apparently
*making gratuitous nice-nice to the Big 8. shrug

Nope, "congenial and constructive" means to behave yourself, without
resorting to immature antics you are so famous for in this forum over the
past decade.

It is no surprise your posting was rejected.

* It wasn't any surprise to me, either, since it was expected.

good that was not quite clear to this point in the exchange

"Not CLEAR?!?" Oh, my, how quickly some forget... :-(

* It served to prove that this "moderated" group would be little
* more than Olde-Tyme Hamme Raddio good-old-boys club
* where all can sit around and marvel at each other's
* expertise in emulating the radio ops of the 1930s. *Sort of
* an "ARRL South" relfector.

if even that

No, it will be a cozy cameraderie, a catty coterie of olde-
tymers busy, busy making nice-nice about each other's
ability to "work DX on HF with CW." And talking about
Olde Dayes such as "Bandplans of 1940" (that none ever
had any life experience with).

In truth, there isn't anything 'wrong' with that. If someone
(or several someones) want to engage in constant nostalgia,
of "doing the right thing" as it was told to them by the ARRL,
fine. It is their choice.

However, that is so far from PROGRESS or even keeping
up with the times as Stonehenge architecture differs from
NYC's Empire State building. Stonehenge appears to be
an old religious-rite site in the UK. Olde-tyme hamme
raddio a la 1930s is also a quasi-religious-rite thing with
some olde-tymers. Let those radio-religious zealots
practice what they preach...in their own cozy cabins of
protection from outside influence.

Apparently, some in here have their whole lives tied up
in this amateur radio thing and are busy being amateur
professionals. Or is that professional amateurs? (hard to
tell the difference sometimes) Some in here have a
desperate NEED to be "better" than others, regardless of
the diminutive status of that "betterment." Those will lie,
cheat, steal in addition to being as abusive as possible
against others to attempt proving it. They seldom "prove"
anything other than being liars, thieves, scam-artists, and
general-class sons of bitches.

Amateur radio has never been more than a HOBBY radio
activity in the real world of ALL radio. In itself that is a fun
thing, an enjoyable pastime, perhaps a relief from having
to work for food and shelter in the real world. It can be
self-educational in a constantly-changing state-of-the-art
technology. But that is all it is, a HOBBY. It has no
academic standing for awarding "degrees" of
accomplishment...yet, some hobbyists try to equate it
with "life goals" or "expertise" well beyond reality.

A certain Massachussetts resident (formerly of Rhode
Island) has stated he "has one more amateur radio
license" than I. Acknowledged, plus at least 11 MORE
(at one time in the past). Now, in the quasi-religious
sanctuary of amateur radio bloggery (as in here), that
is supposed to make him "better" than I? Only in his
mind. To the rest of the world he has been exposed.
Even some of the olde-tyme hammes cannot condone
what he has done...except, in their 'choosing up sides'
they cannot admit to that publicly.

Fine say I to their myriad ways of trying to prove they
are "better" than others. The variety of ways they
express this "betterment" is morbidly fascinating to
me. The ultimate might be the actions of the trustee
of W6NUT (or whatever) who had scammed the FCC
into being granted 2 1/2 times Deignan's dirty dozen
call signs. [I think most have been pulled by now]

The "record" has been SET. Deignan can't possibly
hope to "better" that. All he can do is act the middle
school adolescent bully and be "better" than those not
licensed in amateur radio. That is what so many of
the olde-tymers do in here...Miccolis, Heil, Kelly, and
an assortment of anonymous fruits and nuts.
[some days in here its like an open farmers' market]

LA