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Old February 23rd 07, 04:44 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
Dave Heil Dave Heil is offline
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From: Dave Heil on Thu, 22 Feb
2007 15:44:05 GMT

PERSON J MAKES ANOTHER FACTUAL ERROR...


WHO is "person J," red-hatted one?


Oh, you've mistaken me for Brian. You used the term "PERSON J". Don't
you know?


Your posts were made long after Micheal Black advised the original
poster that the SUBJECT was off-topic for the newsgroup. What you did
was address a SUBJECT which didn't belong. That didn't stop Leonard H.
Anderson.


Feel free to address the Appelate Court of Internet Appeals,
file a Notice of Intent to Sue.

[Sue is the clerk of the court...]


Maybe you didn't understand my statements. You made posts long after
Michael Black advised the original poster that the SUBJECT was off-topic
for the rec.radio.amateur.homebrew newsgroup.


There was no overt expression of "dislike for 'CW'" by myself.

Just covert expression, huh?


"Covert?!?" Did you find some developing fluid to make the
"secret hidden message" visible to all? :-)


That's right, covert. If something isn't done overtly, it is done covertly.

You just HAD to say something negative or dismissive about the responses
of just about anyone who posted, but that was okay.


"Just about 'anyone' who posted?!?" Heh heh heh, only
about some organ grinders and their little red-hatted
morse monkeys who do bad imitations of Otto Preminger.


You're the old organ grinder. Brian is your little red-hatted monkey.
In fact, you're the fellow who likes using the Germanic lingo and who
keeps Godwin's name alive in this newsgroup.


...while you made numerous lengthy, wandering responses and "made noise"
despite knowing that the subject was off-topic.


WHO established this "off-topic" status?


I've told you twice now: Michael Black did.

YOU didn't.


No, I didn't. Michael Black did.

Miccolis didn't.


No, Jim didn't do it. Michael Black did.

RRAH is an unmoderated newsgroup.


Yes, it is.

Awwww...you wanted PRAISE and HONOR just for morse code?

Where was any such idea put forth?


Oh, just in hundreds of past postings by the organ
grinder and his little red-hatted morse monkey for
years... :-)


I know you read Brian's stuff but I wasn't aware that you were reading
your own voluminous output. Your eyes must be glazed over by now.


How will you ease your personal burdens of anger, rage, spite and other
personal defects of behavior as described in the N2EY profile of your
actions?


Ooooooo! I have all those things? :-)


It is evident from your posts.

I will continue, as I've done before, of laughing my
head off at the FACTUAL ERROR-FILLED "profiles" your
organ grinder cranked out. :-)


Organ grinder: You
Little red-hatted monkey: Brian

I don't think you find the very accurate N2EY profile of your actions to
be humorous, Len. I don't think you like it one bit.

I'll be able to use Morse, FM, SSB, AM, RTTY and other digital modes on
the amateur radio bands today, on Friday and at any time after that
date.


Wonderful...who was STOPPING you before?


Nothing at all stopped me before. Nothing will stop me afterward.

What will you be doing on the amateur radio bands after Friday,
Len?


Was I supposed to be "doing something on the amateur radio
bands?" :-)


Well, you were going to have an Extra Class license "right out of the
box" seven years ago.


"On the bands?" No, you should have written "IN" the bands.

Tsk, tsk, factual English Error!


I made no error, Len. I frequently ask my friend John, "what's on the
bands?" I might ask, "what's on TV?" If I asked, "what's in TV?", that
wouldn't be the same question.

Hmmm...not that it's any of YOUR nosy business, but we (that
is, my wife and I) have plans and events for the week-end.


Awwwww! Isn't that nice.

The AAA 500 is on at the California Speedway in Fontana on
Sunday...one example.


Is that a plan or an event?


And you may play make-believe ham radio operator in internet newsgroups.


I do that?!? Oh, my, you DO have a terrible ability to
read...

Tsk, I've never claimed to be either an amateur radio
operator or a "ham radio" operator in real life or in
newsgroups, not on BBS or in correspondence with amateur
radio organizations. Don't even play one on TV.


I wrote "make-believe", Len. I know you aren't a real radio amateur.

You are confused and think I am someone else...


I couldn't make that mistake.


The decision may or may not have been "right". History will reveal
whether it was right or wrong.


We can rest assured that the organ grinder and his little
red-hatted morse monkey will OVER-RIDE any "decisions of
history!" :-)


So you and Brian are still a duo?

THEY are always telling everyone what they should think!


Yes, you do.


You may sweat, itch, live and die
without ever having been a part of amateur radio, Len.


That isn't causing me any worry. :-)


You write like a very formal Alfred E. Neuman.

It DOES seem to bother YOU a great deal!


Let's examine that idea: You believe that it bothers me that you won't
be a part of amateur radio?

Have you sought
medical help for your condition?


Help? I may drink a toast!


There has never been a fellow with more self-important delusions
participating in this newsgroup than Leonard H. Anderson,
non-participant in amateur radio.


Now, now, don't put yourself and Miccolis down so much.


Jim's name isn't Leonard H. Anderson. My name isn't Leonard H. Anderson.

Either one of you are much more self-important than I.


....but neither of us would dream of attempting to change the regulations
governing something in which we are not involved.

It is and has been repeated by you two in here for years.


Actually, it has not. Such statements have come from the likes of you.

Did you know that "radio" is used in OTHER radio services
and by the military and government of the USA? Really.


Did you know that this is an amateur radio newsgroup? Really.

"Amateur radio" isn't the sole user of radio. Really.


Were you aware that this newsgroup is about amateur radio? Did you know
that I'd be in a different radio newsgroup if I were interested in
discussion other users of the radio spectrum?


You don't give orders here, Leonard.


Jawhol! Gruss Gott herr Kommandant! click heels in
acknowledgement


Why'd you snip the part where you were telling others to go away?


You weren't a radio amateur before Jim was born and you haven't become
one since Jim was born.


Who is "Jim?" Is he the one cranking that rusty organ?


It'd be my guess that you've got the rustiest organ here, Len.

You're irrelevant to amateur radio.


So you keep saying!


I surely do. I write it because it happens to be true. All I have to
do is wait and see if I'm prescient.

Well, say it enough times and maybe
someone besides this "Jim" will believe you.


Numerous folks already believe it. They do so because it is the truth.

That's the spirit of using the "Big Lie" technique of propaganda.


No, it isn't. That technique does not involve stating a truth over and
over until people begin to believe that it is a lie. In that technique,
the inverse is the case.

Along comes Major Hoople to stand on the sidewalk and tell us how
amateur radio should be regulated.


Who is this "Major Hoople?" I don't know any "Major
Hoople." You say he was in the newspaper comic strips?
I never saw that strip. Did you have it mixed up with
Hal Foster's "Prince Valiant?" Or Milton Caniff's
"Terry and the Pirates?" "The Katzenjammer Kids?"


http://www.toonopedia.com/hoople.htm


Your comfort is usenet, Leonard.


It is? I don't think so.


....but it is.

You've found a place where you can tell those upstart radio amateurs
about your glory days of fifty-plus years ago.


"Glory days?" Nah. Just a citizen volunteering for
military service, serving and doing what he was told
to do. Your organ grinding master never did that.

Anyone can see it at:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

About 6 MB file size, may take 18 minutes download on a
dial-up connection. 20 pages, lots of photos, mostly
ones I took.


Your glory days.


You can expound on your
past working years, describe your northern and southern homes, tell
folks about your car and prescribe sage advice about horizontally
mounted loops, shielded with Reynolds Wrap (coaxial cable must have been
in short supply).


I can? Oh, my, you said at the beginning that I COULDN'T!


No, I don't believe I did. There are places where you shouldn't.
That doesn't mean that you couldn't.

Please make up your mind.

The late-1960s horizontal loop was an experiment that didn't
work out too well. Too much inductance, too many turns of
wire...with too much inductance the resonating capacity was
too small to allow fixed tuning at 60 KHz. A later version
used 55 turns of #14 THHN insulation electric power wire
(solid) on a 2 1/2-foot circular form (again for 60 KHz,
the carrier frequency of WWVB out of Ft. Collins, CO),
wrapped with twine and varnished. That was wrapped with
aluminum foil for an electrostatic shield, not a continuous
connection. much snipped


Okay, I understand that your problem was that you didn't know much about
shielded loops.

You could have easily made the loop from coaxial cable. All you'd have
needed to do was leave about a one-inch gap in the shield. A single
turn "sense" loop may or may not be placed inside the windings of the
shielded loop. As the loop is a loss antenna, it is very likely that a
preamp would have been needed. I have a two-turn 5 foot diameter
version mounted about a foot off the ground. It is resonant at 1.850
MHz. With a preamp it does a good job of minimizing local noise. It is
not as good at providing readable copy as a 565 foot long terminated
beverage without a preamp. At no time was the use of any Reynolds Wrap
required.

Dave K8MN