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In article om,
"wf3h" wrote:

Moonlight Mile wrote:

The U.S. attacked Afghanistan w/o proper cause,

other than 3000 dead americans, i suppose...

Afghanistan did not kill those 3000 people. Terrorists, who had _some_
association with al Qaeda did that.

killing not one person
known to be directly connected with the 9/11 attacks.

we destroyed the taliban who supported, aided, abetted and conspired
with those who did. those involved in a conspiracy are just as guilty
as those who implement it....a basic fact of law...

There is no evidence that the Taliban aided, abetted, and conspired with the
9/11 terrorists. The terrorists were Egyptian. Trained by Al Qaeda? Maybe? To do
what? Not known with certainty. The U.S. assumed ( unequivocally asserted ) that
the training was to hijack airplanes. What al Qaeda/bin Laden has clearly stated
is that the U.S. stop supporting oppressive regimes in the Middle East and in
other Muslim countries. It may seem paradoxical, but if these "pro-American"/
unpopular regimes were overthrown or voted out of office, not much would change
except the U.S. would probably no longer be attacked by so-called extremists.
Muslim nations would have every reason to make peace with us, trade with us
(oil). The problem is that we would be unable to control and dominate them.
Afghanistan was being bombed by the U.S. in the 1990s. 9/11 was not an
unprovoked attack. It is probably true that 9/11 was a convenient excuse to
invade and control Afghanistan so that we could build and control pipelines to
transport oil and gas from the east side of the Caspian Sea, pipelines planned
to run through Afghanistan. It is also true that Iraq was attacked so we could
control their resources, build pipelines through Iraq. The neo-conservatives
never dreamed that the price would be so high in American lives or $. An Afghan
or Iraqi life is not worth anything to a neo-conservative.

It seems that the U.N.'s approval is not very important anymore. When denied it,
the U.S. claims the right to attack anyone, anytime, for any reason. When the
U.N. Security Council members are bullied and bribed into approval, the hides
behind that. Case in point: Iran _does_ absolutely have the right to enich
uranium for peaceful purposes. The U.S. claims Iran is doing so to make nuclear
weapons, but the U.S. has absolutely no proof that Iran is planning to build
nuclear weapons. Still, U.N. S.C members are bullied/bribed into passing
resolutions to impose sanctions on Iran. No proof is required. The U.S. is
simply not required to provide proof.

All reasons for attacking
Iraq _again_ (March 20, 2003) have been discredited, and we're still there
after
nearly 4 years. The Iraqis are worse off now than they were under Saddam.
We've
imposed a puppet goverment

?? a govt elected by the people in elections monitored by the UN...

The election was contrived and staged by the U.S. Only those having the American
"seal of approval" could play the game. In short, Jalal Talabani was hand-picked
by the U.S. Do you really think the Iraqis would have elected a Kurd as
President? Compare Iraq to Nicaragua whose is President now President Daniel
Ortega. Ortega would probably have been elected as President of Nicaragua way
back in the 1980s if The U.S., under our second most recently mentally ill (the
only qualification required to be nominated as Republican Presidential candidate
is that he be mentally ill) Republican President (Ronald Wilson Reagon =666)
waged a civil war which against Ortega/Nicaragua and the people fully understood
that that civil war would continue if they (fairly/U.N monitored) elected
Ortega. So the U.S. has a long, unpleasant history of imposing governments, that
the people don't want, on other countries.


oh i forgot. he hates arabs.

I hate no one. I distrust my government and have no faith in the "wisdom" of the
American people. They elected Reagon twice, Bush twice. I got some land in FL...
Case closed!


I just have no idea what it takes to get through to people like you.

you cant even get thru to yourself. it's no wonder you can't reach
anyone else.

Insult me if you must. But read Blum's "Rogue State:" A Guide..."

At this point, pardon me if I do what I came to this NG to do...i.e. learn more
about SW.

MM

"Insults, like violence, are the last resort
of the incompetent."--Freud ( I think )