On Mar 10, 7:41?am, wrote:
On Mar 10, 10:28 am, "KH6HZ" wrote:

wrote

As if there's something wrong with being in favor of
Morse Code - not the test, the mode itself.

The TEST.

We can't really argue with amateur radio station KH6HZ about
morse code. To that station the use-availability-testing is all
together in one melange of what that station calls "amateur
radio."

Pretty much. A textbook example of how a large segment of the "No Code
Agenda" isn't about simply removing the code test, but instead is interested
in destroying the mode itself, due to some irrational hatred of the mode of
operation.

The TEST.

Tsk. KH6HZ is simply emitting SPITE from his high-power
emotional amplifier. Things get distorted at such over-driving.

The funny part about Mark's rant is even if there were an adequate number of
Extra-class operators around to give him a test, it is not outside the realm
of possibility that those Extras might have been licensed after 2000, and
could have only passed the fairly trivial 5wpm code examination to obtain
their Extra-class license.

Only Pro-Code Test Advocated trivialize the 5WPM Exam.

And exactly how does the 5WPM Exam disqualify them from being a VE?

That must be a fact known only to Hawaii-resident radio
amateurs. It isn't recognized by the FCC.

I am reminded of someone who accused certain
VEs of "fraud" simply because they presided over
the license testing of a young amateur,

I seem to recall that too. And, if I remember correctly, the accuser wasn't
even a licensed amateur at the time of the accusation.

I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on
6 meters.

I seem to recall an RF Commando telling others how to live their
amateur lives, all the while faking up a bunch of clubs and using an
out of CONUS PO Box to glom up a whole bunch of DX callsigns.

I doubt we are "allowed" to mention that. It is "against" the
good-ole-boy club of code-tested extras in here. :-)

Fraud is fraud, whether it is outright, legally-defined fraud or
just "bad amateur practice." Those that are caught in either
just don't want to admit their guilt.


So I'll say "THANK YOU" to Dee, and all VEs who help
with the licensing process.

Most definitely. I've been to 4 VE sessions in my lifetime, and that was
enough for me.

How many COLEM exams?

At least one...for his GMDSS radio operator license so that he
can be a "lecturer at a Massachusetts university (or whatever)."

I've only been to two exam sessions for radio operator
licensing in my life. Once in 1956 at an FCC Field Office
in Chicago, once in 2007 at an ARRL/VEC-run test site
at the location of one station in the Los Angeles Auxiliary
Communications Service.

I still regard the 1956 First Class Radiotelephone
(Commercial) Radio Operator license exam (passed
on the first try) as being the toughest. Others' mileage
may vary. :-)

73, AF6AY