Best antenna for a starter with an IC718 base rig?
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			On Mar 26, 1:20?pm, "Jeff"  wrote: 
 On Mar 26, 9:12 am, "Dloyd Lavies"  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mar 26, 12:07?pm, "Jeff"  wrote: 
 
   On Mar 26, 7:31 am, "Dloyd Lavies"  wrote: 
 
    On Mar 25, 10:36?pm, "Jeff"  wrote: 
 
     I just bought an IC718 over the weekend, along with power supply, and 
     antenna tuner. ?Now the only thing I have left to decide is what to 
     use 
     for an antenna. ?Basically, I plan to use the rig for DX'ing, 
     ragchews, maybe (maybe**) learning CW, mostly going to do SSB/voice. 
     May at some point try out/experiment with some data modes (the rig 
     will be near my computers afterall). ?So the question is, what is a 
     good 
     choice/source (hopefully high quality/relatively inexpensive) for 
     antennas. 
 
     Thanks, 
     ?-Jeff 
 
    Jeff, 
 
    A little more information would be helpful. ?How much area do you have 
    available for antennas? ?Any available tall trees or structures that 
    would be useful as supports and how tall are they?. ?What is the 
    direction orietation for the area, such as facing north/south or east/ 
    west. ?Any power lines close by or other problems that may cause 
    safety concerns? 
 
    Dloyd 
 
   No power lines....I'm planning to put it in my backyard (well, the 
   backyard of the house 
   we're renting). ?No really tall trees, unfortunately...the tallest is 
   maybe 20ft. ?We have 
   a garage with an attached office (a room approx 15' x 10', single 
   story with all of 
   my computer stuff in it, connected to ethernet, satellite TV, AC, and 
   phone lines)... 
   Orientation is mostly open to northern sky. ?No other real supports in 
   backyard 
   (mostly dead grass and a couple small fruit trees)..but there is 
   probably plenty 
   of room for antennas...also we have a trellace (sp?) over the garage 
   with some 
   kind of vine-line flowering plant growing (not sure if that's useful, 
   but I used it to 
   hide some of the ethernet/satellite TV coax runs). 
 
   Thanx, 
   ?-Jeff- Hide quoted text - 
 
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  Does the installation need to be stealthy and is there any issues with 
  installing semi temporary supports, such as a poles or a mast. 
 
 This probably wouldn't be a problem....I doubt my neighbors would care 
 and it's 
 an old enough development that there might not be strict CCR's 
 (hopefully anyhow). 
 I probably can't build anything too high though maybe 20ft or so..- Hide quoted text - 
 
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Based on what you have said with the height restrictions, lack of 
antenna supports, and if your budget will allow, I recommend one of 
the loaded vertical antenna from Hy-Gain or Cushcraft, like the  R8 or 
DX-88, mounted on a short mast (15' - 20') feet off the ground.  The 
overall antenna height will exceed you specification but usually 
verticals are not that problematic to install and aren't that 
noticable.  Furthermore, as a second/alternate antenna, I would 
install the longest loop antenna I could get up.  If you can put up 
four vertical supports 20 feet long in your backyard, use 2x4 wood 
construction, and then run the wire around the circumference of the 
yard, I've done this using #14 copperweld (sold by the wireman out of 
South Carolina) you can feed this antenna with ladder line, or coax 
with a balun, through your tuner. 
 
Better yet, if you have an auto wire tuner like the ones made by SGC, 
feed it with coax and mount it right at the antenna feed point, works 
real well in this application. 
 
Nevertheless, check around on the net for the exact diminsions of the 
largest wire loop antenna, which is resonant on an amateur band, that 
will fit on your lot. 
 
Although recommended by another poster, I would not use the G5RV at 
this height because at the height restriction you mentioned, the 
radiated energy would just go straight up. 
 
Dloyd 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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