From: on 10 Apr 2007 03:56:54 -0700

Subject: What Revolution?

On Apr 9, 1:05 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 9, 2:05 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 1:34?pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 29, 6:24?pm, Dave Heil wrote a typical

Welp, according to Heil, he was able to bypass military comms training
as he held an amateur license. He was DDA.
You continue to misquote me.

I see no quote.

You used the words "according to Heil". I never made such a statement.
You are in error.

Yes I did, but that is no substitute for a quote.

:-) All those outraged morsemen bitching and moaning about
EVIDENCE and EXACT WORDS...so that they will have some trivial
thing to argue over in front of some "judge." :-)


My amateur radio license gave me the
knowledge to pass the Bypassed Specialist exams.

Wrong. False. The knowledge comes before the license, otherwise how
could you have passed the amateur exam?

The Bypassed Specialist exam was not an amateur radio exam.

So how could it be that your amateur radio knowledge was useful in
passing such a non-amateur radio exam?

The mystery of the ages... :-)

One slight omission by "Barrister" Heil: His USAF MOS (Military
Occupation Specialty). Was it ever mentioned by him?

Did Heil operate ANY radio (other than a BC receiver) while "in
a country at war?"

During the Vietanm War only two transceiver types made up the
vast bulk of communications. I've not seen Heil mention either
one of them, despite an eighth of a million of those two types
made and operational.


A number of
individuals here have pointed out that an amateur radio license is only
the beginning.

If the exam is only the beginning, then multiple exams and multiple
license classes are superfluous. A number of individuals here have
pointed that out.

True. One ham = one license should be good enough for a hobby
activity.

But...a long time ago the "amateur community" decided it wanted
(terribly) the RANK-STATUS-PRIVILEGES of multiple classes,
especially the morsemen holding on (with dear life) to their
beloved morse code. The "upper" classes could then look down
(and put down) the "lower" classes in great personal glee.

Now IN the electronics industry (where the rest of the radio
world's equipment - and some amateur gear - is designed and
made), the vast majority of those involved do NOT have amateur
radio licenses! Those involved in everyday work with radio
and electronics found it a fascinating, challenging activity
all by itself. No "ham ticket" was necessary...indeed was a
superfluous thing since amateur radio licenses are NOT needed
for the rest of the radio world.


Passing the exams
allowed me to bypass tech school.

So you really did bypass military comms training? Exactly how did I
"misquote" you?

You misquoted me when you wrote "according to Heil" and follow it with
something I've not stated.

Yet it is what you did.

WE just don't know for sure what Heil actually did unless he
states his USAF MOS, what he worked with "in a country at war."


The Air Force did not provide a pass on
training because I held an amateur radio license. The Air Force allowed
me to skip Tech School because I passed the Bypassed Specialist exam.

Yet in your own words, you were able to pass that exam because of
amateur radio knowledge...

You sure do like to twist things up and smoke them.

:-) I think he tries to be a "Johnnie Cochrane" in some "court"
and winds up sounding more like he drank too much Johnnie Walker.


You're right, Brian. Jim has forty years of amateur radio experience.
Len has a few weeks at best.

I'm sure he'll catsup quick.

He'll have forty years experience in forty years.

Poor Dave has to maintain that edge of superiority.

He has a terrible personal NEED for that "superiority."

He MUST be above all others. The Latin phrase "Primus inter pares"
suits him ("first among equals"), a Latin oxymoron of all things.

Notice he is getting to be more like The Robesin all the time?


Do you think you know more about amateur radio than someone who has
been an active radio amateur for several decades?
What's to know? Please start a list.
You've held a license for at least a couple of decades. Shouldn't you
have an inkling by now?

You're 59...

That's the sum total of knowledge you've acquired since you obtained an
amateur radio license?

What? You don't like standardized replies that allow for 13 second
QSOs?

Heil wants His NOW. Instant gratification of his "superiority."


Right. Are you running for ARRL office as well? Sure sounds like it.
What do you mean "as well?" Do you know someone who is running for an
ARRL elected position?

You've announced a run for the Roanoke Division Directorship.

No, Brian, I have not.

Perhaps it was only wishful typing when you posted your run?

Maybe Heil CHANGED HIS MIND? People are allowed to do that,
change their mind, that is...

Oh! But NOT in amateur radio newsgroups! No, NEVER, according
to Miccolis! Once one says something, regardless of how long
ago, to Miccolis that is a LIFE GOAL Never To Be Changed!


Len is a guy who holds an Extra license. What class of license do you
hold? ...does Jim hold?

Oh, Len holds a license of the same class.

Indeed. Yet the FCC has no requirement for experience. Len has
gained radio experience via a lifetime of operating in other
services. Weren't you the one who said that amateur experience
allowed you to bypass military comms school?

Brian, it only works ONE WAY, Heil's Way.

Sort of like "Heil's Way or the highway." :-)


He's been a radio amateur
for several weeks. He's green.

NO, NO, NO...FACTUAL ERROR BY Heil. I am not green. As a
caucasoid
type human racial type I am various shades of PINK commonly
referred
to as "flesh color." Blue eyes, light brown hair (with a little
grey
here and there).

I recycle recyclable trash every week...although the LA City
Sanitation supplied can is colored BLUE. :-)

My specific amateur radio equipment is "basic BLACK" with white
legends and a little chrome and aluminum trim (Icom - LDG - MFJ -
Heil Sound - chosen colors). It sits on a nice desk (melamine
surfaces) of BROWN. The credit card I used to pay for it is
mostly BLUE with RED and White trim.


Despite the tenor of some of his posts,
he's a novice in amateur radio. He's just begun.

You're the one who's green - with envy...

I'm not a tenor. More of a baritone. I do have "perfect pitch"
as far as the standard chromatic scale of musical notes is
concerned.

There is NO "novice" class for new US amateur radio license
class grants. That ended almost seven years ago.

Neither is there any AGE discrimination in FCC regulations,
age low or high. It was perfectly permissible by law to take
and pass ALL test elements in one test session...which is what
I did on 25 Feb 07. The ARRL VEC accepted that, the FCC
accepted that. Heil and Miccolis still can't "accept" that.

I BEGAN in big-time radio in the US Army in 1953 with my first
posting to an HF transmitter site. That involved not just KW
RF output transmitters but VHF, UHF radios, then microwave radio
relay terminals (late 1954), plus HTs and backpack radio use
common to "line" outfits (infantry-artillery-armor). So my
"beginning" happened 54 years ago, not a "month" ago. The
laws of physics applied equally well to radios in that time
(and to fields and waves) as it does NOW.

Heil and Miccolis really OVERWORK their look-down-their-noses
attitude of "beginners." When someone proves that amateur radios
work with "different" laws of physics than all other radios,
I might consider myself as a "beginner." Until then, the REAL
difference between amateur radio and the rest of radio is just
some man-made adminstrative details...and from the ham bigots
busy with self-righteous, I-am-so-important-because-I-know-code
sneering and insulting of new licensees.

73s, Len AF6AY