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Old April 11th 07, 07:53 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
Brian O Brian O is offline
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Default why Bother getting a licence to use a GMRS radio?


"bpnjensen" wrote in message
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On Apr 9, 5:47 pm, "Brian O" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message

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On Apr 9, 12:16 pm, "Brian O" wrote:


There are standars of right and wrong. The point is its illegal to

operate
a gmrs radio without a license.


And my point is that it is unethical to require an outrageous fee for
a license for this service. That's just as wrong, arguably worse,
than operating wiothout a license.


Sorry, but your opinion that it is unethical is just that, an opinion.

If
you dont like the law, lobby to change it. Its not an ourageous fee
especially in the face of what a cell phone costs per year.


I agree, it is an opinion, just as is your POV. I have explained
elsewhere in this thread why I think the way I do.


But thats the whole point. Your opinion, and mine, doesnt matter. Its what
the law SAYS that matters.


Yes, you do, you can break the law by operating a gmrs radio without

a
license, or comply with the law and get a license to operate. Just

because
you don't pay for illegality now, doesn't mean you wont later. If

you
feel
safe, you're welcome to it. But people that generally don't have

regard
enough for the law will turn gmrs into another cb radio band. I for

one
don't want to see that and will report people using the radios

without a
license.


Fine, go ahead. I believe your opinion to be incorrect. As I have
also explained elsewhere in this thread, I do not use the radio
improperly, and in fact I use it for a valid and worthwhile public
purpose ONLY. My transmissions are brief, to-the-point and limited to
specific use in the Yellowstone geyser basins. There are plenty of
unlicensed people there, nobody uses his/her call sign, and the NPS VC
welcomes out information.


Totally irrelivant. It doesnt matter how you use it, its still illegal if
youre not following the law by being licensed.


The GPs who show up there *with licenses* cannot say as much about
their own transmissions. Luckily, the bands are not crowded at YNP.


Then they should answer to the FCC as the FCC sees fit. You have no room to
talk.


Ah, a snitch, eh? What are you going to do, interrogate each user?


Just report what I know.


Or what you suspect?


What I know. Now that you have publically stated where you are and when you
operate and that you have no license, you are exposing yourself to
retribution from the FCC.


As I have explained before, I use them for a couple of weeks a year to
report observations of geyser activity in Yellowstone National Park.
This activity is very common among the geyser enthusiasts and
scientists that congregate there. It is quite useful, is clearly not
an abuse of the airwaves, and provides invaluable information to the
Visitor Center who in turn provide geyser viewing advice to the
millions of folks who visit each year. Now, if I read the rules
correctly, the legal use of these devices requires frequent
identification using the assigned call sign. In all of my experience
there, I have not once heard an utterance of a call sign. This, in
direct view of federal government employees that are also sworn peace
oficers (rangers).


That still doesn't give you an excuse to break the law. "No body else

does
it, why should I have to?"


Your opinion. As I have stated, I disagree and am not going to be
penalized for providing a public service.


Again, not my opinion, or yours. Its what the law SAYS.


You can try to justify your illegal operation all you wish. It still

doesn't
change the truth of your operations being illegal.


It also doesn't change the truth that the law is wrong and benefits
only the bureaucrats.

BJ

It may be wrong, but its not immoral, or unethical, therefore you have no
moral basis to break that law. If you don't like it, then get off you
illegal-operation backside and do something to change it through the system.
B