AF6AY wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:57:35 GMT

Subject: What Revolution?

AF6AY wrote:
From: on 10 Apr 2007 03:56:54 -0700
On Apr 9, 1:05 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 9, 2:05 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 1:34?pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 29, 6:24?pm, Dave Heil wrote a typical

A number of
individuals here have pointed out that an amateur radio license is only
the beginning.
If the exam is only the beginning, then multiple exams and multiple
license classes are superfluous. A number of individuals here have
pointed that out.
True. One ham = one license should be good enough for a hobby
activity.
I've told you a number of times that the FCC nowhere uses the word
"hobby" in defining or describing amateur radio.

I've told you a number of times that YOU are NOT the FCC and
HAVE NO AUTHORITY over amateur radio.

Are you losing control of yourself, Leonard? I wrote nothing about my
being the FCC. I told you that the FCC does not use the word "hobby" to
define amateur radio. It's a fact!


But...a long time ago the "amateur community" decided it wanted
(terribly) the RANK-STATUS-PRIVILEGES of multiple classes,
especially the morsemen holding on (with dear life) to their
beloved morse code. The "upper" classes could then look down
(and put down) the "lower" classes in great personal glee.

That seems to be your version of events and it seems that, despite of
reality, you're sticking to it.

It IS reality.

No, Leonard, it is not. In fact, if you'll read your own words, just
down the page, you'll see a guy with a brand new callsign acting as if
he were very conscious of his new found RANK-STATUS-PRIVILEGES.

Just how long have you had this idea that you are NOBILITY?

Did God give that to you or did you develop it on your own?

Wow, you *are* losing it. I wrote nothing of NOBILITY or God.


If someone wanted to participate in amateur radio, passing an amateur
radio license exam was the only way to gain entry. That is still true
today.

So? I took and passed all the test elements for a US amateur
radio license on 25 Feb 07. The FCC (not your royal asshole
self) granted me an AMATEUR EXTRA class license on 7 Mar 07.

So I've noted. I've noted written that I handed you your new license.

Lets see...before 7 Mar 07 you couldn't say enough bad things
about me BECAUSE I didn't have any amateur radio license...now
after 7 Mar 07 and the grant of AMATEUR EXTRA you STILL can't
say enough bad things, can't denigrate me enough.

Well, when you're an unbearable horse's patoot *without* an amateur
radio license and an unbearable horse's patoot *with* an amateur radio
license, it couldn't have been much of a surprise to you.

I'd say you have one great big whopper of a PERSONALITY CONFLICT
filled with hate and bile because you can't put me down...

Putting you down hasn't proven to be the least bit difficult.

can't silence me,

I can't actually hear you, Len. Unlike you, I've never ordered anyone
to leave the newsgroup. :-)

...can't change my mind.

You've done that on your own on a number of occasions. :-)

Ergo, YOU MUST RULE. Sorry,
you DO NOT rule. You don't even work in the FCC.

I've never claimed to "work in the FCC." We're in the same boat.
Neither of us works for the FCC.


WE just don't know for sure what Heil actually did unless he
states his USAF MOS, what he worked with "in a country at war."

The Air Force does not use that term, Leonard. If you're going to play
Secret Squirrel, at least bone up on the background info.

Evasion, ambiguity, attempt to misdirect.

Why should you change tactics now? I'm used to seeing your evasion,
ambiguity and attempts to misdirect. I gave you factual information.

Classic "Major Dud" Robeson responses in here for years.

It can't be much of a classic. There's no Major Dud posting here.

Are you a Robeson Clone? You sure sound like one.

I'm not using any usenet technology you could possibly hear, Len.

*WHAT* did Heil *DO* in Vietnam? Try to be more specific
than "serving his country" or being "in a country at war."

What is it to you, Len? I'm not feeding you information.

Did Heil spot artillery fall? Was he under "incoming?" How
did David Heil get the experience-granted "authority" to
denigrate anyone who has had that experience?

I've not denigrated *anyone* who has had that experience. I have
denigrated at least one individual who has not had the experience but
who wrote about it as if he had.

Try answering challenges DIRECTLY and not evading or misdirecting
every single question. [not that I expect such things but one
has to ask...]

I've told you quite DIRECTLY that I've seen what you do with a little
information. You don't have any and I'm not providing it for you.
Now what will you do?


You're right, Brian. Jim has forty years of amateur radio experience.
Len has a few weeks at best.

I'm sure he'll catsup quick.

He'll have forty years experience in forty years.

Poor Dave has to maintain that edge of superiority.

He has a terrible personal NEED for that "superiority."

reinsertion of relative material snipped by Len

Where did you see me writing of myself? You have a terrible personal case
of inferiority.

Everywhere that is free...certainly here in describing your
adventures in Embassy postings...on two websites elsewhere.

Let's keep you honest, shall we? I reinserted the material you snipped
in an effort to make it appear that you responded to something other
than that under discussion. Anyone can look at the reinserted material
and see your tactic.

I'm not that concerned with boy-wonder rock musician turned
"diplomat" that I care to look unless someone sends me the
web addresses.

You must have missed a bunch of bio material, Len. I worked in
broadcast radio in Miami and Cincinnati, was an outside salesman for a
couple of industrial electronics distributors, played in a traveling
rock band and was ten years with Cincinnati's Big Joe Duskin. You can
even Google Duskin if you like. Don't forget the other classified info:
I worked part-time at Sears as a high schooler and my car is yellow.

For example, you described your "synchronization of TTYs via
morse code communications"...in 1980...as a "good idea."

Your quotes are selective and you shouldn't have used the word "your".

AS IF radio teletype hasn't been used for 50 years before that.

I made no statement to the time frame in which teletype was used.

JIM has forty years more experience that you.

He has? He was born in 1892?!?

Awww, the old gent is becoming forgetful! He didn't remember that we
were discussing amateur radio.


You aren't Jim's equal in amateur radio or civility.

Who is "Jim?" :-)

:-) :-) :-) :-)

Welp, I looked through Part 97, Title 47 C.F.R. and NOWHERE
does it say I have to bow down to any Grate Ones in amateur
radio nor even disturb them (into being "honked off") by
comments in a newsgroup.

Nope, you may continue with your usual tactics, in which case you'll
continue to receive what you dish out.

What are you going to do NOW, your Grateness? Write Special
Counsel Riley Hollingsworth and demand the FCC take away my
amateur radio license due to "bad attitudes?"

I'm dealing with your attitude this very moment.

Poor baby. Still honked off because you can't put me down...

That's easily done. Its effectiveness is indicated when you start
coming unglued.

can't silence my comments...

I can't hear your comments. I've never suggested that you take your
usenet posts elsewhere or that you stop. You've suggested that
newsgroup posters do both.

...with all your mighty denigrations
and put-downs? You must be. That seems to be all you do.

I'm not going to silence you. I'm not going to tell you to go
elsewhere. I'm going to counter you and make you an object of ridicule.

Ya know, nowhere in Title 47 C.F.R. does it say anything about
"beginners, neophytes, wet-behind-the-ears tyros" or other
blabbering to me you and JIMMIE Miccolis have done.

That doesn't mean there are no beginners in amateur radio. Everyone
with an amateur radio license was a newcomer at some point. Only you
are trying to deny your beginner status.

I am
a United States Amateur Extra class amateur licensee by a
grant from the United States Federal Communications
Commission.

Yep, and you're a beginner in amateur radio.

I took and passed all the required tests in one
license exam session...

Yep, you have the license. You're now a neophyte in amateur radio.

...thus qualifying for the colloquial
ham radio expression of "Extra out of the box."

....but not qualifying for the colloquial amateur radio expression "Extra
*right* out of the box."

YOU don't like that.

I'm rather ambivalent on the issue. I don't want to hang out with you.
I don't want you as an on-air pal. I really don't expect to encounter
you on the ham bands.

MICCOLIS doesn't like that.

Well, ANDERSON, I don't really know whether he does or not.

Both of
you think I should have "tested for International Morse
Code cognition" during my amateur license exam.

You know and I know and Jim knows that the 5 wpm Morse Code test had you
beat. You got the license the way you could get the license.

Sorry,
but that wasn't a legal requirement.

You got that part right. You waited for regs to change. It was a very,
very long wait.

No matter, both of you would have tried to PUT ME DOWN
because the old code test rate was only 5 WPM and you
"masters of radio operating" can do much faster code. :-)

I run into a number of folks who can't do high speed CW and whom I've
never "put down". It must be something about you and your attitude. :-)

Heh, the actual test-and-passing wouldn't have made any
change in your Gratenesses' attempts at put-downs. You both
have been doing that since before and after I tested-and-
passed! :-) Only your steamed Gratenesses' words were
interchanged slightly before and after my test. :-)

You just don't get it, Windy.

Dave K8MN