On Apr 14, 3:36�am, "Dudley" anon@anon wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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Dudley wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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AF6AY wrote:
On Apr 12, 1:59?pm, wrote:
Heil isn't going to tell anyone directly.
He will cloud his
"answer" in generalized, ambiguous terms without being
specific.
Yup.
So far he's holding true to form. *:-)

Actually, K8MN *will* tell people directly. He just
won't tell Len what Len demands to know.

He "knows where he was" but won't say where or what he
was doing there.

Sure he will.

He just won't tell Len.

You're starting to get it!

WE are "supposed" to take "His Word"
for it without yielding anything...
Take my word for what? *What claim have I made?

(WE don't have to be supplied with detailed answers?).
That's correct.

Note the use of the papal/royal "WE" by Len.

And the use of K8MN's last name, rather than
callsign or first name.

Any way one slices that it is olde-tyme "snake oil
salesman" BS.
If you slice it correctly, it means you don't know much of anything
about my military service. *It bugs you.

Len appears to presume that anyone who has
done something honorable will tell all about it in
a public forum like this. He also appears to presume
that failure to do so means the person has something
to hide.

In my experience, both those presumptions are
simply incorrect as general rules. Often a person
who has done something honorable does not feel
the need to blab it all over the place.

There is also the fact that if someone is on Len's
enemies list, what they have done makes no
difference in how Len will treat them. He will use
his attack techniques on them regardless of, say,
their actual military/combat experience.

This has been demonstrated so many times that
anyone with sense whom Len considers an "enemy" doesn't bother to tell
Len anything about their life
experience.

My curiousity is piqued. Why does Len feel that you how HIM any bits of
history or personal details regarding YOUR military service?

Len wants me to provide the information so that he can live up to the
terms of the very accurate profile of his actions which N2EY wrote some
years back. *It says:

"No matter what job, educational level, employer, or
government/military service that a radio amateur has, if said radio
amateur opposes Mr. Anderson's views, he/she will be the target of Mr.
Anderson's insults, ridicule, name-calling, factual errors,
ethnic/racial/religious slurs, excessive emoticons and/or general
infantile behavior."

* * * * * * * * * * * * --N2EY

Yep. But that's an old version of the profile, which has been refined
and updated over the years.

Here's the latest version, straight from the author:

"No matter what employment, education, life
experience or government/military service someone
has, if that person disagrees with any of Len's views,
or corrects any of Len's mistakes, s/he will be the
target of Len's insults, ridicule, name-calling, factual
errors, ethnic/gender/racial slurs, excessive
emoticons, orders to shut up and/or general
infantile behavior."

Sums it all up in one long but accurate sentence.

Len likes to refer to the profile as character assassination. *The
problem with that is that he can be shown to have done all of these
things over and over and over. *For it to be character assassination, it
would have to be shown that Len has not engaged in such behavior.

Exactly.

You certainly
"owe" him nothing in this regard, and other than Len is issuing some
kind of
childish grade-school challenge ("step over this line...I dare ya..")
his
queries are pointless babble.

I think you've summed it up in a nutshell.

You are correct. It clearly bothers Len that you are mum on this topic,
as
well you should be. What will Len next do? Issue another, more serious
challenge and "double dog dare you" to satisfy his perverse curiousity?

That's one possibility. Another is to accuse the
person of having something to hide, being ashamed,
or outright lying.

Keep
him guessing. It gives Len something to further grouse about...as if he
needs same.

Len lives up to the N2EY profile of his actions today as he did for all
of those years during which he had no amateur radio license. *What he
claims to decry in others, he does himself.

That's what the shrinks call "projection". Len also
exhibits classic textbook "transference" behavior,
where he attributes to one person the actions of
someone completely different.

Then there's the inclusion of obviously intentional
mistakes in Len's posts, as a way of getting attention
from those who correct those mistakes. That one
presents a bit of a moral dilemma, because to leave
the mistakes uncorrected may cause some to be
deceived by them.

IMHO, it's all about Len somehow "proving" he is
better than anyone who disagrees with him.

Name and callsign not given because of you-know-who.

Lord Voldemort?

Allow me the luxury of but a comment or two, then I shall no longer lend any
further credibility to Len by discussing this.
I've noted that Len takes, as I said, a childish, perverted pleasure in
playing word games while smiling to himself and needling others, yourself
especially. He should be left ignored.

Agreed. In the end, most people do just that. KH6HZ
was probably the first, almost a decade ago.

Len is apparently self-absorbed and,
as noted, becomes somewhat disgruntled when his diatribes go unanswered.
Len desires attention...nay...NEEDS attention as evidenced by his lengthy
posts. To ignore Len is to insult Len. He needs you far more than you need
him.

Compare the number, length and tone of Len's posts
(under a variety of screen names) and the truth
of your statements becomes apparent.

I look at Len with a sidewards, understanding glance. His comments are
bolstered by but a few in these groups and if his supporters, such as the
Myna Bird are any indication of his standing...well, that pretty much sums
it up.

I'm not sure who "Myna Bird" is, but I think you are
on target.

73 de Jim, N2EY

....going back to just-reading mode....