K7ITM wrote:
To me, the whole idea of using phasors is to remove the time-varying
quantity from discussion, so you can concentrate on phase and
magnitude.

Yes, that was what I was doing. I think that is what EZNEC
does. I think that is what Kraus does. It seems to be the
key in determining what phase shift occurs through a 75m
loading coil.

Incidentally, one of the best treatments of this subject,
IMO, is in "Optics", by Hecht.

I suppose I get a little carried away on things like this, but to me
it's important that we're communicating with words for which we share
a single definition, not words that mean distinctly different things
to different people.

Apparently, someone needs to get carried away in order to
get this problem resolved. A measured zero phase shift
through a loading coil using a current that doesn't change
phase is meaningless and misleading.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com