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Old June 8th 07, 07:26 PM posted to rec.video.desktop,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.arts.tv
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Default I want to see your head on a pike.

None of this crap belongs in sci.electronics.basics.

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:57:37 -0700, Anim8rFSK wrote:

In article ,
"Robert Peffers." wrote:

"labtech_one" wrote in message
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"default" wrote in message
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SNIP

In all fairness it is/was our fault. Theoretically (in a democracy)
the people rule. We must really like the idea of war . . . --


in all fairness, the USA is a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. (Majority
does NOT always rule)




Is there anything to prevent a republic also being democratic?


Yes

As far as I know there are two definitions of, "Republic", 1. A state
where supreme power is held by the people, or their elected
representatives, or by an elected or nominated president. 2. Literally
it means a society with equality between its members.


Neither of which is the definition of Republic.

While a democracy is -
1. (a), a system of government by the whole population, usu. through
elected representatives. (b), a state so governed. (c), any organization
governed on democratic principles.
2. an egalitarian and tolerant form of society.


Well, you got that wrong as well.

Can any USAsian really believe that they live in a Republic, (in the
literal sense of the word)?


Sure. We do.

Can any USAsian really believe that they live in a "Democracy", (in the
literal sense of the word)?


Yes. Many many many people incorrectly believe that. The press insists
on getting it wrong every day.

In effect both the USA and the UK are now, "Oligarchies"-


Except for the part where we're not.

Oligarchy,
1 government by a small group of people. 2 a state governed in this way.
3 the members of such a government.

Just consider how Bush and Blair took our two countries into wars that
the public, by the large, did not want and you will see that neither
state is either democratic nor republican.


Even if your statement were true, your conclusion still wouldn't be.

We elect these people as our servants to carry out our democratic wishes
and they then become the masters and we the servants. It is long past
time for the people of both democracies to reassert themselves and
demand their appointed servants remain their servants rather than their
leaders and/or masters.

Will I now have to beware of black 'copters at dawn?


I'm sure your level of dishonesty and delusion requires it.