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Old July 1st 07, 10:22 PM posted to sci.electronics.basics,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,alt.cellular.cingular,alt.internet.wireless
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Default AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency

Radium hath wroth:

ps. how would u like to change the cell phone industry?


Analog cells phones should stop using FM and should start using AM
between frequencies of 40,000 to 285,000 Hz.


Analog cell phones are going to be history in the US on Feb 18, 2008.
Japan killed off analog around June 1999, Korea in Jan 2000, most of
Europe in 1997, etc.

40KHz thru 285Khz? Great idea. Just one minor problem. A 1/4 wave
antenna at about 100Khz frequency is 750 meters long. That's going to
be a rather large antenna for literally dragging behind you. Maybe a
balloon? Maybe a loop like this one?
http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=10850
Of course propagation might be a problem, as it will only work at
night and you'll have to connect to a cell site on the opposite coast
for those frequencies to work. The customers can be ignored when they
complain about atmospheric static and noise.

Of course, 240KHz of usable bandwidth is much less than the hundreds
of MHz currently in use by cellular providers, so there will
substantially fewer users. Let's see.... there are 240 million
subscribers in the US. Your AM system can handle about 40 users (6KHz
channels), so your cell phone bill will only be 6 million times larger
than it is currently. Now do you see why the microwave bands are so
in demand for cellular.

As I learned recently, 40 KHz is the minimum radio frequency required
to coherently transmit/receive audio signals.


Coherently? I would be worried if you planned to incoherently
transmit/receive audio signals. Perhaps if you added 40KHz to your
word salad, it would make your blather more coherent. (Hint: Look
up the definition of coherent and then use it where appropriate).

Actually, you're close. 40KHz is the common frequency used by
ultrasonic TV remote controls. I've seen PWM modulation system using
a pair of these to act as a crude cordless phone (that doesn't require
FCC type certification). You could probably go down to 20KHz, but
then intermodulation products (mixes) between the audio and the
carrier will begin to be a problem. Congratulations, you got one
thing mostly correct.

The highest sound a
human can hear is 20 KHz.


Voice is from 300 to 3000Hz. You could probably get away with 300 to
2400Hz. If you're planning to transmitting AM hi-fi or data, then you
might need the 20KHz.

The radio-frequency used must be at least 2x
the intended frequency of the information being transmitted/received.


Ummm... no. You're apparently thinking of the Shannon rule for
information bandwidth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist%E2%80%93Shannon_sampling_theorem
If your input audio is perhaps bandwidth limited to 3KHz, a 6KHz
carrier will not work. You'll get considerable mixing (aliasing) and
audio intermodulation crud. The carrier would need to be somewhat
higher in frequency as limited by whatever output RF filtering is
used.

I chose 285 KHz to be the highest radio frequency for cell-phones
because it is roughly the highest-frequency categorized as "long wave"
radio.


Nope. See details at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave


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