
July 10th 07, 05:17 AM
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AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
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"Bob Myers" hath wroth:
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in message
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No nonlinearity is necessary in order to hear
a beat?
Where does the beat come from?
An audible beat tone is produced by the constructive and destructive
interference between two sound waves in air. Look at a pictorial
representation (in the time domain) of the sum of sine waves,of similar
amplitudes, one at, say, 1000 Hz and the other at 1005, and you'll
see it.
Bob M.
I beg to differ. There's no mixing happening in the air. compression
of air is very linear (Boyles Law or PV=constant). If there were
mixing, you would be able to hear the beat note when one generates two
ultrasonic tones. I belch 25KHz and 26KHz from two transducers, by
our logic, air mixing would create a 1KHz beat note. It doesn't and
you hear nothing.
What seems to be the problem here is the model of the human ear is not
what one would assume. It is NOT a broadband detector. The cochlea
cilia (hairs) resonate at individual frequencies. Each one resonantes
at only one frequency (and possibly some sub-harmonics). Therefore,
the human ear model is a collection of narrow band filters and
detectors. Unless the two frequencies involved both cause a single
cilia to simultaneously vibrate at both frequencies, there isn't going
to be any mixing. Each detector can be individually quite non-linear,
but as long as it vibrates at only one frequency, there isn't going to
be any mixing.
Well done.
Finally, someone who gets it.
Meanwhile, I would greatly appreciate it if everyone would kindly trim
quotations. This thread is becoming difficult to read. Thanks.
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Jeff Liebermann
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