On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:59:33 -0700, Telspam Electronics
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Apart from the question raised over the typical radio settings,
was the idea of the processor not to reduce the dynamic
range of the audio, rather than simply increase the
maximum modulation?

No, VoiceMax greatly compresses the audio.


And with less than 1% distortion, no less!!! Except for the fact is
that compression -is- distortion. There are two types of distortion,
Brian: desireable and undesireable. Compression is one type of
desireable distortion, which is why manufacturers of REAL compressors
don't lie about their distortion specs. They stick it right out there
for the customer to see because that's what the circuit is designed to
do -- distort the signal. But in a -good- way.

The fact that you have never made that distinction throughout this
entire discussion (which has lasted about a year) proves, once again,
that you have no idea of what you are talking about.


You appear to be suggesting that this processor works by
the person turning their radio up.

What I'm saying is that to get the maximum benefit from VoiceMax...
one must have a radio that is capable of 100% modulation... before the
module is installed. If you have such a radio... then there is nothing
to be done but the installation. The redundant limiters (radio &
VoiceMax) will be transparent to the user.


Including the original AGC circuit?


The VoiceMax has built in limiting... so a
redundant system is not needed.

Unless, at some time, someone decides to remove the
processor? Maybe they don't like it, maybe they want a
standard radio, who knows - but I have heard of many
non-standard boards being removed for various reasons.
This may not be the person who fitted it, so they will be
totally unaware of the removal of important cricuits
within the radio.
Then they have a radio with no limiting.

True. If the radio's limiter is adjusted or disabled... one would have
to restore it to its original setting if the VoiceMax module is
removed. This is normally a very simple procedure as you are most
likely aware of.


Not at all. Your procedure requires cutting a trace, which is the most
common reason you can't find a decent used radio anymore. It's not
always a simple task to bridge a cut trace. It requires soldering, and
not everyone who can scratch a trace is capable of soldering. Are you
willing to pay the cost to repair the radio when the customer doesn't
like your processor? If not then that's a pretty ****ty deal.


It sounds like you have no plans to
open your radio... so VoiceMax is not for you.

This is where I start to get some serious concerns...
1. Do you really want to supply the customer, or simply
make up your own ideas and con people into buying them?

Don't understand this...


Yes you do, Brian. It's what you have done with all your products from
day one. Should I make a list of all the lies you have made trying to
sell your hacked wares? If I start now I might get done around.... oh,
say, around Christmas.....


2. If I had issues with a product I got from you, why should
I expect anything more than Vinnie got... a big "blow off"?

I didn't blow-off anyone.


Brian, you blow off anyone that provides proof that you are lying or
technically incompetent. That's been your SOP in this group since you
started spamming it over ten years ago.


I merely told Vinnie that if he didn't have
the expertise necessary to install the unit... and didn't want anyone
else opening his radio... that VoiceMax wasn't for him. What's wrong
with that?

The suggestion that you would not sell your product to
Frank also suggests a couple of things...
1. You have something to hide, something that Frank could find.
2. You have a limited customer base, and intend to keep it that
way - no selling through dealers, so you can control who is
allowed to buy one.

Frank has been a constant irritant here for years... yes years.


True, but only to those who spew technical voodoo and hocus-pocus. And
I'm proud of it.

I do, however, apologize for being so anti-illegal in the past -- the
FCC is impotent and the government so corrupt that nothing is going to
change until they are -forced- to change. It's too bad it has to work
that way. But I still have hope that maybe the next election will turn
things around.... Lou Dobbs in '08!!!


He is
a frustrated electronic technician in California


I am a broadcast engineer in Washington that earns a salary of $42K/y,
in addition to being a small business owner for almost 15 years, and
I'm finishing my Master's program this fall. Frustrated? "LOL!!!"


that doesn't like
anyone challenging any statement he makes.


On the contrary, anyone should feel free to challenge anything I say.
But you better be prepared to back it up with facts and logic -- none
of that "the world is gray" or "it's part of a bigger picture" crap.


As you see he very abusive/
abrasive.


Very true.


I certainly don't need... or want customers like that.


Yes you do, Brian. Because unlike you, I usually don't make statements
that I can't support with facts. And abusive or not, I'm usually
right. It's not so hard to do when you can suspend your typing long
enough to hit a couple books or search for a couple authoritative
references. So when a customer like me advocates a product then you
can bet your bottom dollar that it's good. For example:


Frank's CB Consumer Report for July '07:

The Mattco model SWR2 meter is small, portable and accurate. It's
also tough as nails; I've dropped mine countless times and it still
works great. Operation is very basic with just a FWD/REF switch and
CAL knob. Quality of materials and construction is excellent. The
metal box is painted in black crinkle enamel, and has two X-slots in
the back for mounting it permanently or even semi-permanently. The
only problem I've ever had was a loose meter face, and a little
epoxy cured it without breaking a sweat. This is one of the best SWR
meters I've ever owned, Bird included, and is the most used in my
shop.


Now do you really think your business would be -worse- if I posted
something like that about your processor? Of course not.


You're right... I will be distributing this device at first. After the
product catches on... I hope to work with some distribution channels.


What happened to "we"? Are you actually starting to take your pills
and keep your appointments?


You should know very well that I have no issues with you
personally, but these are the impressions I am getting. I
also doubt if you impressed Vinnie, a potential customer. How
many more will question your commitment to the customer?

I'm not here to impress anyone.


Well, you certainly accomplished -that- goal....


I also don't want to sell this device
to anyone that has reservations about the performance.


So you will only sell it to those who are convinced that it works
before they use it? before any independent testing? before the product
has been vetted by other consumers?

* |=| - SCAM ALERT - |=| *


Most of these
guys... Frank, Steveo, and some others are not potential customers...
they are spoilers. That is... and has been their mission all along.


The word is "skeptic", and yes I am. Your claims are preposterous,
just like those 6-inch magic antennas that get 15dB gain.


They are good in a way because they always play the "devils advocate"
and give me an opportunity to explain my device to others out there
that are interested... and smart enough to comprehend. Those people
are... and continue to be my customers.


Wrong. You prey on people who don't understand the meaning of the
false specifications you are spewing, and give them an explanation
that satisfies them just long enough to get the sale. You work on
people's lack of technical knowledge with a "too good to be true"
pitch before they learn why these things really -are- too good to be
true. You're a con artist, Brian. And you're BAD AT IT!!! "LOL!!!"