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Old August 28th 07, 05:33 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default Time to throw in the towel on HD Radio !

Pete KE9OA wrote:
You are correct...........iBiquity didn't make that claim. The local radio
station on 97.1 calls theirselves "high definition radio".
When I spoke to one of the PR folks at iBiquity a couple of years ago, they
made the claim that when I heard the hi fidilety capabilities of IBOC on the
MW band that I would be impressed. When I asked them about eliminating the
interference to the adjacent channels, they didn't have an answer.


LOL...no....and why would they?

iBiquity is very good at not answering questions, I've noticed. You'd
think for the kind of money they get for licensing alone, they'd be a
little less with the Microsoft attitude and a little more appreciative
of the pigeons paying tribute.

But, I expect too much.


Like interference free broadcasting.



What the hell was I thinking.....







Pete

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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Pete KE9OA wrote:
Perfectly put, Brenda. IBOC is the biggest joke that I have seen in a
long time. And they have the nerve to call it "high definition radio". As
big a joke as Windows Vista.

Pete




iBiquity specifically states that "HD" in "HD Radio" does not stand for
"High Definition." At one time, it stood for "Hybrid Digital," as the
intent was to make the transition to full time digital only broadcasting.

Today, iBiquity claims "HD" stands for nothing....


Which, if you think about it.....


And as for the idea of apply synchronous detection to get rid of IBOC
interference....yes...well....ahem....

Not so.


You're not that far from me, and there is no end of IBOC rash over the
stations worth hearing, up here. I think this is a solution desperately
looking for a reason to execute the perpetrator.

Radio isn't going to give up on this crap easily, though. Not with the
investment they've already made in hardware and licensing. But it's not a
solution that will bring the results Radio was hoping for. First, it's not
CONTENT focussed in its marketing...And it's CONTENT that drives
listening. That's why we're all so willing to sit through the noise and
static to hear programs that are not broadcast locally....we're want the
content, not the gimmick. (Well, except for one, whose logs reflected at
most 2 minutes each of the stations in the ILG database.)

Until Radio gets this, and starts creating content that listeners want
to hear, and making it availble only on the digital streams, IBOC will
continue to languish.

No matter what HD salesmen claim.

The data tells a different tune than a claim about a commission check.
















"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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wrote in message
ups.com...
You must have a very dull life - nothing to do but post your very
stupid remarks about HD Radio.

The auto industry is gearing up to add HD Radio to nearly every make
and model automobile within the next 3 years or so. All 2007 BMW's
now offer HD Radio as an option. For 2008, Jaguar has added the
option. Also for 2008, the new luxury car being offered by Hyundai
will have HD Radio as standard, I believe. And the list goes on.

The same nonsense was said about FM Radio, about radio itself when
television took off, about tv dinners, etc. etc. Things don't happen
overnight.
FM did not interfere with anyone's ability to listen to their favorite
AM station. TV didn't interfere with anyone's ability to listen to their
favorite AM or FM station. FM stereo did not interfere with anyone's
ability to listen to their favorite FM station in monaural. AM stereo
did not interfere with anyone's ability to listen to their favorite AM
station in monaural (in fact, it enhanced the experience because of the
allowed extra bandwidth. IBOC DOES interfere with people's abilities to
listen to their favorite stations. Not only does AM-IBOC interfere with
stations up to three channels away from an IBOC station's carrier
frequency, but it has meant that the audio bandwidth now used for AM
analog is little or no better than a telephone. FM-IBOC interferes with
first and second adjacent channels, making them difficult or impossible
to receive. And anyone who lives in a high population area, such as the
east coast, knows that their 'local' stations are not the only ones they
can hear. Areas between say, New York and Boston, or New York and
Philadelphia, can hear stations easily from either city. Not with IBOC..