A few thoughts as nighttime IBOC operation looms later this week...
On Sep 16, 1:51 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 15, 7:59 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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If, as you say, hispanics share a culture, then....
That is how the OMB defines it, and, thus the Census Bureau.
This is actually quite funny. Tardo has a great fondness for arguments
from authority, since they only require him to cite
"authorities" (dictionaries, census bureaus, etc.) as opposed to
saying anything more substantive. Now, though, he's trying to justify
inconsistency itself by appeal to authorities. I guess if
inconsistency is good enough for your precious authorities, it must be
good enough for us, huh Tardo? lol
What is inconsistent? The term "Hispanic" used to mean someone from what was
the Roman province of Hispania. Since that was a little used term, when the
Census was ordered to break out what we now know as Hispanics before the
1980 Census, there was no term that fit the mandate. Latino includes
Brazilians, Portuguese, French, Italians, etc. So the OMB and Census came up
with a word that covered persons of the "Hispanic culture" which really is
just anyone who speaks as their principal language or comes from a heritage
where it was the principal language of Spanish. Of course, even this is a
defective term in the sense that many Hispanics' heritage tongue is Náhuatl,
Quechua, Aymará, etc.
But, it had been impossible to separately enumerate this group before (most
were under "white" racially) the term worked.- Hide quoted text -
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You are inconsistent. First, when some posters object that there's a
distinction to be drawn between race and nationality, you respond that
there is no distinction because two people can be categorized as
belonging to the same race anytime they share some characteristic
(e.g., nationality) in common. However, when someone later describes
Hispanic people as belonging to the same race, it turns out that being
Hispanic is not, as a characteristic, sufficient for two people's
belonging to the same race. So, it appears you can't make up your
mind about whether to employ a very 'thin' notion of race or a
substantially thicker one. When pressed on this apparent
inconsistency, you seek shelter behind your dictionary and the Census
Bureau. Pathetic.
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