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Old September 30th 07, 12:45 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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Default Xtal calibrator, 1980 ARRL Handbook

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Uncle Peter wrote:

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The problem here is that neon bulb relaxation oscillators top out
at, according to the charts in the book, at between 10 and 30 kilohertz,
depending on bulb type.

Mark Zenier
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I was curious if there was a limit on the upper frequency, and I was
wondering about the waveform as well; that is if the circuit can produce
strong harmonics up into the upper HF regions. It would be an interesting
project to build!


The book is pretty vague on the speed of a discharge. Neon lamps
are sloppy parts. They age, their characteristics vary by how much
illumination they get from other lights (or built in radiation), they
take tens of milliseconds to settle down after they've turned off, etc.
So the discharge speed is a pretty loose spec.

Scanning the scope photo of a 7 kHz oscillation and feeding it into
The Gimp (Linux's equivalent of Photoshop), it looks like the fall time
of the sawtooth is about 30 microseconds, out of a total cycle of 140
microseconds. (A 4.7 meg resistor, a 50 pF cap, and an 5AB (a tight spec
NE-2), at 140 volts). Even using just the steepest part, it doesn't look
like there would be harmonics there much higher than 100-200 kHz. High
impedance makes the waveform pretty squishy.

Mark Zenier

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