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Billy Burpelson wrote:

"Burr" wrote:

I understand what you are saying and I wish I could totally agree
but, we have lost so many Americans and "I think" we were lead into
this war by lies of WMD.
Don't be apologetic; you are absolutely right!

Telamon wrote:

Ask yourself, logically, does it really make sense that the Bush
administration would lie about the prewar intel?

Well, YES it does...many admit the facts were twisted (remember Colin
Powell?), and being in fear of their careers, they told the boss what he
wanted to hear.

NO yellowcake (admitted to by everybody)

NO WMD (admitted to by Bush on national TV)

NO Al-quaida tie-in (admitted to by Chaney on national TV)

"Saddam is a bad guy" -- So what? The world is full of bad guys, and
Saddam's been dead for a couple of years anyway.

Bottom line: The WRONG war in the WRONG country for the WRONG reasons.

Thousands of Americans dead, ten thousand Americans mutilated, half a
TRILLION(!) U.S. dollars down the drain, a -sovereign- nation utterly
trashed for no reason, every retired General saying it's a crock of
****, no end in sight.

So, please, tell me why we are there...

P.S. Use your cowardly Plonk on me if you must, but just remember that
Burr started this thread and I am only responding (just as you did). :-)

Telamon wrote:

There is nothing I can do to solve your lack of intelligence or
ignorance. You did not respond like I did as what you posted is total
partizan motivated ignorance.


I'll just post links two example links to the "NO yellowcake (admitted
to by everybody) comment above as an example for you to follow.

Conservative link
http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/..._of_yellow.htm
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Liberal link
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0624-09.htm

So you see conservatives and liberals agree that after we rolled through
Iraq it was found that many drums of yellow cake were around an old
reactor site that the Israelis bombed years ago.


Well, your statement above seems to be a bit feeble minded.

I was not speaking of yellow cake from "an old reactor site that the
Israelis bombed years ago" Even your conservative link says: "These
issues are somewhat *separate* [emphasis added] from the
Plame—Wilson—Rove dust up.", which is what I WAS referring to. When
people refer to Iraq and yellow cake, especially in the context of "war
excuses", it is about the Niger fraud that W used as an excuse for the
war, not something from "years ago". No one is saying Iraq never had any
yellow cake in the country years ago. The Niger yellow cake issue/excuse
was clearly proven fraudulent and a sloppy fraud at that. [as also
stated in your conservative link]

And in case you've already forgotten, the topic was "excuses for the
war", not something that happened "years ago". Please try and pay
attention. It seems the "ignorant one" is turning out to be YOU.

Now go figure out how the other comments you made above are on an even
greater level of self delusion if you can.

No, I think I will stand by my quotes of the comments that *W and
Cheney* made on national TV. Also the death and mutilation figures are
quoted accurately, a sovereign nation WAS trashed and the "dollars
spent" figures are all accurate. Finally, haven't you heard General
Sanchez's statement from a day or two ago?

Sorry you think those TRUE statements are "delusional" -- but I wouldn't
expect any less from a senile old fool...