On 29 Oct, 04:19, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

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On 28 Oct, 17:27, Cecil Moore wrote:
art wrote:
Where is the information that backs that statement as I need to check
that out?

Isn't it obvious that since RF waves travel at the speed
of light and it is impossible for an electron to travel
at the speed of light, that RF waves are made up of
something other than electrons?
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

We may be getting confused with nomenclature here.
I think most people have had to brush off from their clothing
electrostatic
particles. So I will call it a static particle without reference to an
electron.
That static particle can rest on a diagmatic material asd copper and
aluminum,
gold, silver etc is in that class. It is also this class of material
that
is used for antennas no less!
So static particles are allowed to rest on an antenna.
Now a antenna is a tank circuit where the distributed constants of
inductance
and capacitance are energy storage containers. Now is that hard to
understand?
And the L,C ratio to each other is very much a constant in antenna
mathematics.
Do we have anything else? Yes we have resistance. All in all just
three
distributed components
With a tank curcuit the energy containers release their energy in
pulsatic
form just like the voltage on the Tesla coil .
In the case of a radiator a spark is not produced as the power goes to
the
capacitor which later on will release its stored power which goes
back to
the inductance.
Now if resistance is not present then we would have a loss less system
right?
Unfortunately there is a litle resistance present but it will act for
some
time in pendulum style using very little energy.
When a pulse of energy is released down stream to the other end any
static
particles will be projected away from the surface where it acts as a
radio
communication carrier.
So call this static partical at rest on the radiator surface what you
want
it certainly does not produce a photon.
As there is no explanation available as to what radiation is I am
content to
stay
with what I have deduced from adding a time variAnce to Gauss's static
law
encompassed by an arbitary field which conformes with Maxwells laws as
used
to determine characteristics of a radiator via computor programs now
in existance.
Now getting back to electrons static forms ofcourse, what a
coincidence that we
make our antennas od a diagmatic material which by chance or
coincidence or
luck of the draw is the only type of material that will allow a
accumullation
of static particles upon its surface.
Now there are sonme other materials which will allow a small amount of
static
accumulation on the surface such as some types of steel e.t.c which
make
poor radiators.
Why? Because they are not fully populated with static particles or
what some
call free electons.
Now this explanation fits very well together so I consider it a
suitable
explanation of radiation in the absence of any other explanation.
FIND FAULT WITH IT IF YOU CAN AND LET ME KNOW SO I CAN AMMEND IT.
Good luck and best regards
Art Unwin KB9MZ.......xg

ah, this explains a lot... Art is an aetherist... seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether
the mysterious 'static particles' that aren't bound to the material and
carry the electromagnetic energy can only be the aether. since it is well
known how much energy is needed to free an electron from a metalic surface,
and as was pointed out that if it was really electrons that were leaving the
surface it would require a DC component in addition to the RF to replace
them or the antenna would become charged,

Get your mind back to the physics mode. Consider the basicvs infolved
with a field
in equilibrium as in Gauss's ,law of statics.
This method to explain things is used by physicists every day
In a short moment in time a DC pilse enters the field which breaks the
internal equilibrium where the boundary has a rapid change in contour
and fractures.
The DC blast removes the surface particles and in this moment where
equilibrium does not exist the static particles are projected beyond
the boundary before the boundary shape
is repaired. Have you got your mind in the thinking mode yet?Now what
does the blast consist of when energy is released nfrom a capacitor
bearing in mind that the capacitor plates are made of a diagmatic
material? Remember that for this method of deduction all "flux" must
pass thru the field so what is it that is stored on the surface plates
on the capacitor? Sice some particles are ejected from the field it
must bve the same type particles that leave a capacitor where some
replace those that are ejected.
Art Unwin KB9MZ....XG










it must be aether particles that
art is talking about. They would satisfy the massless speed of light
particles stuck on the surface and other crud that art is dreaming about in
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