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Old November 4th 07, 04:07 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Default ANTENNA QUESTION


"Dloyd Lavies" wrote in message
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On Nov 3, 5:54 pm, "John Doe" wrote:
If you can't contribute anything positive to this question, then stay out
of
it, with your trash!

I have a 10m base loaded mag mount antenna, that I had to put a piece of
felt over the magnet as not to scratch a new vehicle.

You are wasting your time trying to protect the paint when using a
magnetic mount. Grit will find its way under your magnet, and within
a year of normal driving, you will have scratched paint. Take a deep
breath, get out the hole saw or metal punch, and punch a hole in your
new car. Your radio will be happier and so will you as the paint
around your antenna will not be subjected to the inevitable damage
caused by magnet mounts. BTW, before anyone says anything about
lowering the value of the vehicle, I've sold and traded-in multiple
vehicles with holes punched in them, and not once has anyone ever said
a word about the holes. When I trade it in, I just put in a rubber
plug and no one notices.


When I did this I apparently changed the capacitance between the mag
mount
and the roof of the vehicle. Someone suggested that I might want to
replace
the felt with either a large balloon or a large prophylactic as it is
thinner and the capacitance would then return to almost where it should
be.

Positive comments only!


However, if you have committed yourself to using a magnetic mount, I
would suggest using ultra thin vinyl sheeting, this should give you
enough grip to keep it on the vehicle. Nevertheless, anything that
you use is going to require that you retune the antenna, a longer whip
may be also be required because of the decreased capacitance.

73, Dloyd

I've been down that road, too. The mag mount is OK for short term use, say
for a day or so but it is not a good idea to leave one on the vehicle for
any length of time. As Dloyd pointed out, grit WILL find a way to get under
the mount and it WILL damage the paint. I learned the hard way that moisture
will also linger under the mount and the paint will be further damaged.
Then, too, is the possibility of the antenna striking branches, door tops
and other low-hanging obstacles and when the magnet slides across the roof,
guess what? You got it! More damage to the paint.
At VHF/UHF frequencies you will not see enough of a change in the standing
wave to be concerned with if you use a buffer between the magnet and the
body. It will be miniscule.
Dloyd is correct again when he advises you to do it the right way. Drill a
hole. Mount the antenna and have fun.
Oh, as an addendum? I once had a magnetic mount antenna stolen from my car.
It was a 2 meter quarter wave whip but that didn't phase the CBer who cut
the coax and stole it. And before you jump on me and ask how I know it was a
CBer, read on.
I had engraved part of my soc number on the underside of the antenna. I just
happened to visit a local CB shop one afternoon and saw my antenna on a
shelf and the owner of the shop told me it was for sale for five dollars.
Without going into further detail, I arranged for a local detective to visit
the shop and buy the antenna, whereupon the owner of the shop was promptly
arrested for selling stolen property. The icing on the cake, so to speak,
was when the detective discovered that the owner also had several stolen CB
radios for sale as well. The CBer who stole the antenna was also caught and
charged.

73!

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