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Old November 24th 07, 12:37 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default Point-of-Fact : Internet Radio -is- Anti-Green -and- AnEnvironmentally Un-Sound Media Distribution System [.]

On Nov 24, 3:50 am, RHF wrote:
On Nov 23, 8:08 pm, Steve wrote:



On Nov 23, 9:07 pm, RHF wrote:


On Nov 23, 5:21 pm, Steve wrote:


On Nov 23, 5:42 pm, RHF wrote:


On Nov 23, 11:24 am, Steve wrote:


On Nov 23, 2:28 am, RHF wrote:


On Nov 22, 7:25 pm, "
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On Nov 22, 4:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


"Brenda Ann" wrote in message


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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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FM failed. Twice. The public didn't care. There was virtually no
uptake.


Look at it now.


FM didn't require people to throw out their old radios and buy new ones.


It didn't? How did you listen to FM on an AM radio. Similarly, HD does not
require anyone buy a new radio unless they want to... the analog signals
continue to be broadcast. Of course, you had the choice of simply not buying
an FM radio, which is what 99% of the people did for the first 25 years of
FM broadcasting.


Color TV didn't require people to throw out their B/W sets and buy an
expensive new color set. Color TV didn't interfere with existing B/W
television services and was still viewable on existing B/W sets.


Just as current radios will continue to receive analog signals.


So, then are you saying that HD radio, once all stations go to that,
will require everyone to purchase an HD radio - or could one still
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BAJ,


You can not listen to the "HD" Radio 'Digital' Signal
on an Anolog Radio.


1 - Buy a HD Radio and Listen for Free.


2 - Buy a Internet Radio and Pay a Month Fee.


3 - Buy a Satellite Radio and Pay a Month Fee.


Your Future Choice : Free -or- Monthly Fee


~ RHF
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Internet radio requires a fee? I'm still waiting for my first bill in
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- - Steve,
- -
- - Do You Pay For Internet Access ?
- -
- - Via a Land Line or Cable ? [ ISP Costs ]
- -
- - The average Table Radio is ~25 Watts
- - -while- The average Home PC is ~250 Watts [ 10X ]
- - -extra- "WiFi" Whole House System
- -
- - you pay-through-the-nose month-after-month ~ RHF
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- Yes, but it seems pretty deceptive to call that an internet radio
- 'fee'. It's a bit like saying you pay a monthly 'fee' to listen to
- over-the-air radio when you pay your power bill or buy batteries.


Steve - Deceptive [ D E C E P T I V E ] - It's The Truth [.]


It is part of the cost-of-doing-business just like the
True Power-Cost of In-Home Internet Radio is actually
Ten Times [10X] the Cost of a Single AM/FM Table Radio


Point-of-Fact : Internet Radio -is- Anti-Green -and- Presently
An Environmentally Un-Sound Media Distribution System [.]


SAVE THE PLANET - LISTEN TO 'FREE' OVER-THE-AIR RADIO !


When an Internet Radio can Function like an basic 'kitchen'
AM/FM Radio and be Plug-and-Use like a basic Toaster :
* AC Power Plug
* Telephone Power Plug [No PC or WiFi]


IMHO - Then Internet Radio will have come of Age
for Use by the Average Radio Listener. ~ RHF
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- Then just answer one simple question for me.
- If what you're saying is correct, then if I stop listening
- to internet radio tomorrow,
- I'll begin saving money.
- How, exactly, will this happen?
- What money will I save?

Steve - DOH ! - Savings -do-not-equal- Costs ~ RHF
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I'm not asking whether savings equal costs. I'm asking you to clarify
your claim that people who listen to internet radio are charged a
monthly fee for that privilege. We're not in disagreement about the
fact that internet radio requires internet access. Nor do we disagree
about what stand alone internet radios cost, so far as I can tell. I
am not denying that there are costs, and if you think I am denying
some of the costs, just say so. We can discuss it.

In the meantime, I would appreciate it if you would clarify your
statement that people who listen to internet radio are charged a
monthly fee for doing so. The question is not whether they're charged
a monthly fee for internet access. The question is not whether they
pay for their electricity. The question is not whether they had to
purchase their internet radios. The question is whether people are
charged a monthly fee that is specifically for listening to internet
radio. You've asserted numerous times that they are charged such a
fee. I would appreciate it if you would explain this--assuming of
course that you really meant it.