Hi Dan,

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 00:23:49 -0500, "AI4QJ" wrote:

The "delayed" current travels through the 53 foot coil from end to end in
1.615m/3*10E8 m/s = 5.4 nsec just as it would a straight 53 foot wire.

Agree?

Not particularly.

The current is
merely delayed by the length of the coil which is 5.4 nsec. The phase of the
current in the standing wave has no relationship the the lag of a traveling
sinusoidal wave.

Agree?

Not particularly.

If you agree with both of the above, then you will agree that Cecil is
right.

And this last statement is so disconnected from those that introduce
it as to create a real paradox. You might want to review Cecil's math
(yes, I know, it hardly is worth the effort) to ask yourself how you
two come to different solutions and yet you both agree.

My agreeing is hardly of consequence, and I don't see it as
validating/invalidating the complete discussion of the technical
issue. Throwing math at a problem whose premise is so obviously
faulted (revealed through rather simpler means) is like using Quantum
Mechanics to balance your checkbook. The results may seem compelling,
but it really takes much less effort that is far more satisfying and
isn't nearly so open to a raft of unstated issues (expressed by Jim in
practical measurement considerations, and observed by Gene as
omissions in W8JI's system description).

To put it bluntly, it isn't a math problem.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC