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Old December 7th 07, 05:37 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Cecil Moore[_2_] Cecil Moore[_2_] is offline
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Keith Dysart wrote:
On Dec 6, 9:48 pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
So are we agreed that a 43.4 degree stub terminated in
0-j567 ohms impedance is electrically 1/4WL, i.e. 90
degrees long?


There are many ways to get the 0 input impedance:
(1)- 43.4 degrees of 600 ohm line terminated in a lumped 0-j567 impedance
(assuming I recall the problem corrrectly and you did the math
correctly)
(2)- 43.4 degrees of 600 ohm line followed by 46.6 degrees of 600 ohm
line, open at the end
(3)- 43.4 degrees of 600 ohm line followed by 10 degrees (IIRC) of 100
ohm line, open at the end
(4)- a short
(5)- 180 degrees of any impedance line shorted at the end
- and many, many more


If you calculate the complex rho and calculate the phase
shift provided by a -j567 impedance, you will agree with
my statement above.

Are you claiming that all of these are electrically 1/4WL ?


Of course not!!!! I numbered your examples above. Examples
1-3 are electrically 1/4WL long. Example 4 is 0 WL long.
Example 5 is 1/2WL long.

All my remarks apply only to stubs and antennas that are
electrically 1/4WL long. My remarks do NOT apply to any
stub or antenna that is not electrically 1/4WL long. An
ideal open stub that is 3/4WL long has the same impedance
as a 1/4WL stub but is it obviously not 1/4WL long.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com