On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:22:44 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Richard Clark wrote:
Cecil Moore
You missed the point. A terminating capacitor is a two
terminal network. The point where two pieces of feedline
are connected is a four-terminal network. A two-terminal
network is different from a four-terminal network.

More signs of your confusion. How would you know how many terminals
if its inside a box?

If you were locked in a black box, you would be ignorant
of night and day. Does that mean that night and day would
not be happening? Hint: No, it would just mean you are
ignorant. Your ignorance changes absolutely nothing
outside of the box in which you are locked.

Why does my ignorance of what's in the black box change
the reality of what's in the black box? Hint: it doesn't.

The fact that I am ignorant of the four terminal network
in the box doesn't change the fact that it is a four
terminal network. The fact that you won't allow me to
open the box and measure the phase shift at the impedance
discontinuity doesn't change the fact that it is 36.6
degrees.

OK, So you are ignorant of what is inside the box. Rather a long
ramble to such a simple conclusion.

Are you still ignorant of which of two phases? Your rambling
confusion has yet to come to terms even to the point of not being able
to name both of them in one posting!

Like trying to wake a sleep-walker, I hesitate to offer a dangerous
suggestion with you in your condition: Could they be "phase" shift
and "phase" length? In your somnambulant state of foggy recall
It just occurred to me that you and I may be talking
about two different phases.
can you tell the group what the two different phases are? This could
be an important moment in recovery (it may take only 11 steps more).

Take your time, we appreciate that your sudden catharsis can jog your
mind into curious responses...even though they would be
indifferentiable from the several hundred that preceded. ;-)