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Old January 3rd 08, 07:14 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Jim Kelley Jim Kelley is offline
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Default Standing-Wave Current vs Traveling-Wave Current

Keith Dysart wrote:
The example was carefully chosen to illustrate the
point, of course. But that is the value of particular
examples.


When the pulses are not identical, the energy that crosses
the point is exactly sufficient to turn one pulse
into the other.


The remainder of the energy must bounce
because it does not cross the mid-point.
...Keith


So it really is almost as though the pulses travel through one
another, rather than bounce off one another.

I have seen the concept that energy doesn't cross nodal points alluded
to in some texts. However there are so many exceptions to it found in
physical systems as to render it a dubious notion at best. Useful
perhaps for illustration purposes.

In the discussion of standing waves on a string, Halliday and Resnick
says "It is clear that energy is not transported along the string to
the right or to the left, for energy cannot flow past the nodal points
in the string, which are permanently at rest. Hence the energy
remains "standing" in the string, although it alternates between
vibrational kinetic energy and elastic potential energy."

So the idea is valid for a simple harmonic oscillator in which there
are no losses. In such a case, once the system begins oscillating, no
further input of energy is required in order to maintain oscillation.
Clearly there is no flow of energy into or out of such a system.
What is clear is that energy doesn't pass through the nodes. It is
less clear that there exists an inherent mechanism which prevents the
movement of energy.

And so it appears in cases where there is no transfer of energy that
one might claim that waves bounce off of one another. There are no
other examples, and no supporting mechanism for it of which I am
aware, and so one might be equally justified in claiming that waves
pass through each other in all cases.

73, ac6xg