art wrote:

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Dave,
Over the years many have asked that same question and I have answered
it many times.

Yeah Art, I have notice the exact same thing. I think he is one of
those "special people." Most likely, took "special classes" when he was
in school. We should probable just ignore this fact--indeed, we should,
most likely, just ignore him ...

When ever a newbie comes along they always ask the same question
without looking back at my past posts since they want to argue. Now it
is you who is starting the post with a caustic comment regarding the
"tower of Babel" but at no time have you or any newbie initiated a
discussion before making a insult to follow the crowd. What do you
think I should do when you call my writing "babel"? Now the computor
programs state that a tilted element provides more horizontal gain
than a horizontal element. This was followed up independently on this
newsgroup.No debate regarding the coroberation
So should we all dump the antenna computor programs? Many hams say
they did this or did that and produced better than sliced bread. Hams
respond that you didn't measure on the range properly so give me the
math. I started off with the math which was corroberated by a doctor
working for a space agency. Guess what? He got plastered for "poor"
mathematics.
This group cannot debate any thing which is why only a few dominate
the group now. Past experts have left!So I ask you"how should this
group be run"?
Art

Yes, but all that is probably just a factor/side-effect of the special
classes he which he was "initiated" with.

You'd be better looking for more "intellectual fields" to plant your
ideas in ...

Warm regards,
JS