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Old February 5th 08, 03:44 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Cecil Moore[_2_] Cecil Moore[_2_] is offline
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Default Derivation of Reflection Coefficient vs SWR

Keith Dysart wrote:
So, contrary to Cecil's assertion, an analysis based on
'no reflections at the source', has not resulted in any
violation of conservation of energy. This is good.


Again your analysis violates the conservation of energy
principle. The only way to balance your energy equation
is for your source to supply 25 joules/sec.

IF THE REFLECTED WAVE IS NOT REFLECTED FROM THE SOURCE,
IT FLOWS THROUGH THE SOURCE RESISTOR AND IS DISSIPATED
IN THE SOURCE RESISTOR. THAT REFLECTED WAVE ENERGY IS
THEREFORE NOT AVAILABLE TO THE FORWARD WAVE.

You cannot eat your reflected wave and have it too.

The standard equation is:

Psource = Pfor - Pref = Pload

But you have taken away the reflected energy and
dissipated it in the source resistor. So your new
equation becomes:

Psource = Pfor + ????????
18.75w = 25w + ________

You say the source power is 18.75 joules/sec and the
forward power is 25 joules/sec. If none of the reflected
energy is available to the forward wave, where did the
extra 6.25 joules/sec come from? Is it sheer coincidence
that the reflected wave is associated with 6.25 joules/sec
that are now missing from the above equation?

Here is an example of the reflected wave flowing through
a circulator resistor and being dissipated.

Source---1---2----45 deg 50 ohm feedline---150 ohm load
25w \ / 18.75w
|
50 ohms
6.25w

But in this example Psource = Pfor in order to satisfy
the conservation of energy principle which your example
does not.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com