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Old March 19th 08, 11:08 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Keith Dysart[_2_] Keith Dysart[_2_] is offline
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On Mar 19, 12:00*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
Keith Dysart wrote:
I am not sure why you focus on the infinitesimally small
times when "the instantaneous source power equals zero".


:-) :-) That was my exact reaction when you wanted to
focus on the infinitesimally small times associated
with instantaneous powers. :-) :-) You are to blame
for that focus, not I.

It only takes one example to prove your claims wrong.


Could you state the claim that you think you are proving
wrong?

I didn't want to focus on instantaneous power at all
but you insisted. Now that your own techniques are
being used to prove you wrong, you are objecting.


If you wish to have your equalities apply at only selected
points within the cycle, that works for me.

It only fails when you make the assertion that
for the circuit under consideration, the energy in
the reflected wave is dissipated in the source
resistor.

At the time when the instantaneous source power is zero,
the only other sources of energy in the entire network
is reflected energy and interference energy. That's
a fact of physics.

You have gotten caught superposing powers, something
that every sophomore EE knows not to do.


Could you kindly show me where?

The two expressions in which I have summed power are
Ps(t) = Prs(t) + Pg(t)
and
Pg(t) = Pf.g(t) + Pr.g(t)

You have not previously indicated that either of these
are incorrect. Please take this opportunity.

I repeat:
The only time that power can be directly added is
when there is *ZERO INTERFERENCE*. The test for
zero interference is: (V1^2 + V2^2) = (V1 + V2)^2


Surely you overstate. Powers can be directly added
whenever you have a system with ports adding and
removing energy from the system. Conservation of
energy says that the sum of the energy being stored
in the system is equal to the sums of all the ins
and outs at the ports. There are no conditions on
the ports adding or removing energy.

...Keith